What do you consider the greatest problem in race relations in America?

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I don't agree with everything Adam Corolla says but this is further evidence of how the white liberal male sees minorities as "needing them" to stick up for and take care of them. They "protect" these minorities who they tell that they can't do things on their own and expect them to raise generation after generation of Democrat voters...they farm them for votes; a form of modern-day slavery. It is perhaps the biggest exploitation of a people in this country since real slavery was legal. It is sad really, but they promise them a better life that never happens and encourage them to have as many babies they can't pay for as long as they raise them to vote Democrat...White liberals are always "sticking up for" minorities is actually a form of soft bigotry and is them exposing the fact that they DO NOT see minorities as being equal in brains or ability as they are. It reminds me of Charles Manson...he too was a white liberal and he believed that he'd someday lead the blacks after a race war because he did not think they were capable of leading themselves.

0bama's own brother seems to think this too based on his interview in the movie "2016"...he basically said that wherever the white man goes, he makes improvements and makes life better for people (healthcare, clean water, jobs, technology, etc.)...So I ask you...is there any truth to that or not? If there is any truth, then is he a racist for pointing that out? I say maybe there is, but it is most likely because of the white liberals institutionalizing failure and creating a permanent underclass as described above, so they can be the ruling class, and not because of race.

http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/2013/...opeless-liberal-california-lt-governor-video/

JB - It sux because it is hard to tell those that mean well and those that are exploiters...I know there are many well-meaning people that have blinders on.
 

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This is how I see the world.

I see being prejudice, as meaning having formed an opinion of an individual or group of people based off of a sterotype. I think being prejudice goes beyond just race. Everyone has a little prejudice in them be it based on race, income, religion, gender, sexual orientation, or if you went to the University of Texas. It's what you do with those prejudices in my mind that determines the sort of person that you are.

If you take the time to and effort to be open minded, and treat every individual as just another person, then you can quickly work past negative sterotypes that you might have. I think everyone has to have the ability to talk about their prejudices to ever hope to really address them. I think just because you voice a prejudice doesn't make you racist, unless you solely voiced it just so you could get in a fight with the intention of just trying to show everyone why you think your right.

I see racism as acting on a negative prejudice. I see it as taking an action with the intention of inflicting harm, or a strong indifference to "accidently" inflicting harm.

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Agreed.

Yes...my late father used to say that just because he hated rap music it did not make him racist...in other words, just because there were aspects of a culture he did not prefer, or behavior associated with that culture, it did not make you a racist...he also didn't like country music.
 

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I know, from speaking to Black veterans, from both WW 2 and Vietnam, that one of their biggest disappointments was returning to a lot of racism after having fought, been wounded and watched their friends and family members die for America.
 

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You know, some of the more racist people I have come across are lower class white folks. It almost seems as if they need to have someone beneath them to shi+ on. Also, when these people actually interact with people of a different race, they seem to lose a bit of their prejudice on a person to person basis. I guess it is a lot easier to attack a stereotype but when they are face to face, it is a lot easier to take people on the merit of their character.

I personally don't understand a prejudice based solely on race. I may watch a group of thuggish looking guys with gang tats on their face closer, but it makes no difference to me if they are black, hispanic, white, or otherwise.
 
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We're often enablers in a co-dependent relationship when it comes to race. Those who automatically assume someone is disadvantaged in today's society due to their race or color, really aren't doing that person any favors.

Everyone should be judged by what they bring to the table, not what they look like.
 

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I know, from speaking to Black veterans, from both WW 2 and Vietnam, that one of their biggest disappointments was returning to a lot of racism after having fought, been wounded and watched their friends and family members die for America.

Yes...it was shameful...NOBODY here should discount what black Americans have had to go through as a people...nobody...

Having said that, about EVERY race of people on the planet have been mistreated, enslaved, or exploited at one time or other in history...it is counter productive to blame ME for what went on in the past. My ancestors did not get here until after the civil war. I have worked hard for what I have and I don't have much.

The struggles of yesterday bring the opportunity of today...that would be a much better attitude. Keep despising the Klan but don't lump me in with them...that is what hurts race relations. A buddy of mine who is American Indian said that even though his people fought hard and lost the "war", that he lives a good life now with his iphone, healthcare, xbox, wal-mart, etc...he said that he would not trade the life he has today for anything. I see both sides...I'm proud of my Irish factory worker ancestors that were treated as bad or worse than slaves around the turn of the century. They endured a lot and I am thankful I have not had to go through that.
 

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As for some of the other points, I do believe their is reverse racism, and I think it is BS that it seems to be acceptable. I have been called racist names by clients, I have been shunned at the weddings of friends, and I believe, although cannot prove, that I was denied a lease in a historical black area because I am a big blonde blue-eyed guy.

Yes, but how much have you benefited from "white privilege" without even being aware of it?

I'm sure I'm about to get flamed by the "white guys are the new minority" crowd, but unfortunately racism is alive and well in Oklahoma USA. The fact of the matter is that it IS still harder to be a black person than a white person in Oklahoma. Don't believe me? Look at the prison population statistics.

Still don't believe me? OK, then let me ask the white males who want to whine about "reverse discrimination" to HONESTLY tell me what they would do in the following situation:

You post a "want to buy" ad for handgun. You receive two offers to sell you the exact handgun you are looking for. Both sellers are asking the same price. Seller number one is named Jameel Williams and wants to meet in a historically "Black" part of town. Seller number two is named Mark Johnson and wants to meet in a historically "White" part of town. Who do you buy the gun from? Why? I dare any of the "its hard to be a white male" crowd to honestly answer that question.
 
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Yes, but how much have you benefited from "white privilege" without even being aware of it?

I'm sure I'm about to get flamed by the "white guys are the new minority" crowd, but unfortunately racism is alive and well in Oklahoma USA. The fact of the matter is that it IS still harder to be a black person than a white person in Oklahoma. Don't believe me? Look at the prison population statistics.

Still don't believe me? OK, then let me ask the white males who want to whine about "reverse discrimination" to HONESTLY tell me what they would do in the following situation:

You post a "want to buy" ad for handgun. You receive two offers to sell you the exact handgun you are looking for. Both sellers are asking the same price. Seller number one is named Jameel Williams and wants to meet in a historically "Black" part of town. Seller number two is named Mark Johnson and wants to meet in a historically "White" part of town. Who do you buy the gun from? Why? I dare any of the "its hard to be a white male" crowd to honestly answer that question.

Which one is closer to my home?

Yes there still is racism, prejudice and bigotry in this country, but to tell the truth it comes from all races and largely depends on where you are as to whom is one the short end. Here you will see it aimed more at blacks, in Detroit and other areas it is aimed more at whites. The kicker is that if we had more honest discussion about it there would be a lot less of it.

Threads like this are why I like OSA.
 

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Yes, but how much have you benefited from "white privilege" without even being aware of it?

I'm sure I'm about to get flamed by the "white guys are the new minority" crowd, but unfortunately racism is alive and well in Oklahoma USA. The fact of the matter is that it IS still harder to be a black person than a white person in Oklahoma. Don't believe me? Look at the prison population statistics.

Still don't believe me? OK, then let me ask the white males who want to whine about "reverse discrimination" to HONESTLY tell me what they would do in the following situation:

You post a "want to buy" ad for handgun. You receive two offers to sell you the exact handgun you are looking for. Both sellers are asking the same price. Seller number one is named Jameel Williams and wants to meet in a historically "Black" part of town. Seller number two is named Mark Johnson and wants to meet in a historically "White" part of town. Who do you buy the gun from? Why? I dare any of the "its hard to be a white male" crowd to honestly answer that question.

Again, I'm not sure people understand what the word racism means. This hypothetical is most certainly not an example of what racism is. Please understand that what you are describing is prejudiced behavior, not racist behavior. Put in the proper context you can be prejudice through racist beliefs but you have not provided the proper context to hypothesize such an example.
 

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SoonerBorn,

In all due respect, you keep repeating that we don't understand the difference in the terms. What difference does it make and will you please explain what you mean? Simply telling us we don't understand is getting kinda old. If you already have explained the difference, please point me to where and accept my apologies. If you haven't, please do so, in order that we can understand what you mean. Thanks.
 
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