What would you do?

[SoonerP226]

I was a bit spicy in my younger years

Wait--so you're telling me the current TedKennedy is the moderated form?

 

[TedKennedy]

Wait--so you're telling me the current TedKennedy is the moderated form?

Indeed. I have mellowed considerably, believe it or not.

 

[OkieMoe]

A month or so ago I was looking into one of the farms involved in the inheritance and drove into an access road to look at the only pickup that was missing from the main farm ( a 1958 apache ) and I walked into a nice plot with a feeder and two nice stands. Obvious bow setup for dusk and dawn. We decided that they will get a pass this season. Next year we have the talk and post more signs. Its not where those in my family will be hunting this year anyways. Next time IF I walked up on or saw someone hunting OR just trespassing, pics from the phone and a call to LE. People do stupid things and ive lived this long to NOT be planted because I confronted a guy and didnt see his 3 buddies. Or any other scenario that can make it a bad day fast.

 

[OkieMoe]

I ran into a very similar situation when I was but 21 years old, and a brand new deer hunter. I was on my Grandma's land, sitting on the side of a hill. Some guy in orange walked the road at the top of the hill and disappeared. I didn't confront him because it was deer-thirty and figured I'd see him at dark.
Watched 4 does goof around for awhile, then they headed in the direction of the stranger. Heard a shot, and I went to investigate. Poacher was standing about 250 yards to my west when I got to him. I said "did you get him?" - poacher says , "I think I hit him but we'll never find him".
I saw a huge blood trail and said "he went down this way". About fifty yards later we were both looking at a very dead, and illegal doe. I said, well, we better call the game ranger" - poacher about crapped, "I can't afford a ticket!".

That's when I asked him who he was and how he came to be hunting there. He gave me some BS story about my grandma giving him permission. I told him who I was and told him he'd best exit and forget the incident, as well as never coming back. I gutted the doe and drug her up the hill, put her in the back seat of my 1979 Buick hatchback and went to grandma's to pick up my then wife. Did I mention the Buick had a white interior?

We drove home with the doe in the back seat, hoping not to get pulled over. Yes, I know it was illegal, but leaving it would be a sin. Looking back, I'm really glad that poacher was a coward and willing to walk away - I was a bit spicy in my younger years and would certainly have shot him if he acted in any way other than submissive.

For a little context, Oklahoma's deer herd was ridiculously small back then and does were a protected class for the most part. I view the poacher's actions as not merely lawbreaking or trespassing, but committing a moral outrage by killing a doe during that time period.

That story reminded me when I was working the farms at 16 and local buddies picked me up on a Saturday night. a few hours later I was standing in the back of a pickup holding onto a roll bar holding a spot light, ON a game preserve in the middle of December while these FKs were trying to shoot a deer with 22's... Thankfully the deer weren't as drunk. Ive walked the main homestead that we own years ago and found dead bucks with the racks removed. Then I realized why my family would spike the roads into that area.

 

[Two Gun Warrior]

Okay all you tough guys ...

1. Attempting to disarm someone (even on your own property) is called assault.

2. And without witnesses (and sometimes with) it turns into a HUGE pissing contest that just, in a best case scenario, just makes all the lawyers richer and the judge and bailiff bored outta their gourds.

How about we just act like grown-ups and if the trespasser decides to be a prick and lie and/or "stand" his ground, you walk away, discreetly take any and all pics you think you need and just call the game warden to come out and take a report when they can get to you??

I dunno. Maybe I'm just being a girl.

That is not an assault unless you beat the sheit out of them. You have the right to defend your property, ask them to leave the firearm in the blind or lay it on the ground. Get them away from the weapon. Always being ready for what might happen. Call 911 give them as much information as you can. Be prepared to use enough force to stop any confrontation.

 

[Two Gun Warrior]

If I disarm someone on my property, who’s going to believe the guy that’s breaking the law claiming he was “assaulted”?!?

Just the ones that see the bloody mess.

 

[retrieverman]

Just the ones that see the bloody mess.

I have no intention of getting into a physical altercation with a trespasser, and I don’t think asking someone to put their gun on the ground for my safety and theirs is an unreasonable request.

 

[Snattlerake]

I ran into a very similar situation when I was but 21 years old, and a brand new deer hunter. I was on my Grandma's land, sitting on the side of a hill. Some guy in orange walked the road at the top of the hill and disappeared. I didn't confront him because it was deer-thirty and figured I'd see him at dark.
Watched 4 does goof around for awhile, then they headed in the direction of the stranger. Heard a shot, and I went to investigate. Poacher was standing about 250 yards to my west when I got to him. I said "did you get him?" - poacher says , "I think I hit him but we'll never find him".
I saw a huge blood trail and said "he went down this way". About fifty yards later we were both looking at a very dead, and illegal doe. I said, well, we better call the game ranger" - poacher about crapped, "I can't afford a ticket!".

That's when I asked him who he was and how he came to be hunting there. He gave me some BS story about my grandma giving him permission. I told him who I was and told him he'd best exit and forget the incident, as well as never coming back. I gutted the doe and drug her up the hill, put her in the back seat of my 1979 Buick hatchback and went to grandma's to pick up my then wife. Did I mention the Buick had a white interior?

We drove home with the doe in the back seat, hoping not to get pulled over. Yes, I know it was illegal, but leaving it would be a sin. Looking back, I'm really glad that poacher was a coward and willing to walk away - I was a bit spicy in my younger years and would certainly have shot him if he acted in any way other than submissive.

For a little context, Oklahoma's deer herd was ridiculously small back then and does were a protected class for the most part. I view the poacher's actions as not merely lawbreaking or trespassing, but committing a moral outrage by killing a doe during that time period.

I would have called the sheriff and had him confiscate the doe. They have a fund for such things that would have paid a butcher to dress it out and give it to a nursing home or two.

I almost forgot, there is a list of people at the S.O. that will come out any time 24-7 and take a road kill deer. They go by the top of the list. If someone can't take it or they cannot contact them, the next in line is called.

 

[Oklahomabassin]

I would have called the sheriff and had him confiscate the doe. They have a fund for such things that would have paid a butcher to dress it out and give it to a nursing home or two.

I almost forgot, there is a list of people at the S.O. that will come out any time 24-7 and take a road kill deer. They go by the top of the list. If someone can't take it or they cannot contact them, the next in line is called.

Must not be many on that list judging by all of the roadkill deer that lay there for days. Maybe I don't travel in the correct county.

 

[retrieverman]

I would have called the sheriff and had him confiscate the doe. They have a fund for such things that would have paid a butcher to dress it out and give it to a nursing home or two.

I almost forgot, there is a list of people at the S.O. that will come out any time 24-7 and take a road kill deer. They go by the top of the list. If someone can't take it or they cannot contact them, the next in line is called.

The last couple people I know that hit deer and did the right thing by calling the game warden were told to do whatever they wanted to with it. The game wardens wouldn’t even come out. I guess they might come out for a poaching case, but who knows anymore.