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On a separate note, I'm a little pissed about this. Dinged the inside edge of a lug when swapping straps on the Big Eye over the weekend (springbar slipped off my Bergeon tool). How the F soft is this stainless? That ding is from the springbar, not tool damage. I won't be using pointed tipped Sinn springbars on this watch any more...

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On a separate note, I'm a little pissed about this. Dinged the inside edge of a lug when swapping straps on the Big Eye over the weekend (springbar slipped off my Bergeon tool). How the F soft is this stainless? That ding is from the springbar, not tool damage. I won't be using pointed tipped Sinn springbars on this watch any more...

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Pretty much all the stainless is soft for clean machining and high finish. You just did a Rockwell test with that spring loaded point. That point would have hurt most anything snapping free.
 

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Pretty much all the stainless is soft for clean machining and high finish. You just did a Rockwell test with that spring loaded point. That point would have hurt most anything snapping free.
I've heard countless times that springbars can't damage 316L. Here's 100% evidence to the contrary. Lesson learned. I'll only use flat tipped springbars in the future. Luckily it's not noticeable with a strap installed.
 

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All I can do on removal of 2-piece is to put bits of low adhesion painter tape on exterior of lugs, but on install I am able to put some on inside against slippage or tool whoopsie....frankly, one of the reasons I stick with 1-piece is with less messing with bars I have less chance of damage. LOVE watches with drilled lugs for frequent swapping.
Same as a 420J2 dive knife, 316L is notable for corrosion resistance and not hardness, and can scratch/dent pretty danged easily, especially with impact in a small area. Springbar tips are likely always harder.
 
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All I can do on removal of 2-piece is to put bits of low adhesion painter tape on exterior of lugs, but on install I am able to put some on inside against slippage or tool whoopsie....frankly, one of the reasons I stick with 1-piece is with less messing with bars I have less chance of damage. LOVE watches with drilled lugs for frequent swapping.
Same as a 420J2 dive knife, 316L is notable for corrosion resistance and not hardness, and can scratch/dent pretty danged easily, especially with impact in a small area. Springbar tips are likely always harder.

Agreed...

I probably swap straps more than anyone else here by 10 fold. I've had the occasional springbar slip, but never so much as left a notable blemish when doing so. That's why this circumstance is a bit of an eyebrow raiser for me. Plenty of people here have seen my watches. They are pretty blemish free, even though I change straps almost daily and never tape the lugs. I'd chalk it up to the hardness and shape of the Sinn springbars, but they've never left a mark on any other watch in my collection.
 

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Agreed...

I probably swap straps more than anyone else here by 10 fold. I've had the occasional springbar slip, but never so much as left a notable blemish when doing so. That's why this circumstance is a bit of an eyebrow raiser for me. Plenty of people here have seen my watches. They are pretty blemish free, even though I change straps almost daily and never tape the lugs. I'd chalk it up to the hardness and shape of the Sinn springbars, but they've never left a mark on any other watch in my collection.
I doubt you have done much draw back the bow and let arrow fly with most others, and that very small hard tip also happened to hit at a thin corner with no supporting metal around impact point to share the load and prevent collapse....all I can say is good thing that exact thing did not happen to a Ti or gold case or you'd REALLY be singing the blues. I don't think there was a real lesson to be learned as not even tape would have helped much considering what hit, and where....it was just a confluence of everything going south at once, and I hate it for you.
 

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I doubt you have done much draw back the bow and let arrow fly with most others, and that very small hard tip also happened to hit at a thin corner with no supporting metal around impact point to share the load and prevent collapse....all I can say is good thing that exact thing did not happen to a Ti or gold case or you'd REALLY be singing the blues. I don't think there was a real lesson to be learned as not even tape would have helped much considering what hit, and where....it was just a confluence of everything going south at once, and I hate it for you.
Yep, just a case of everything adding up and going south. Not sure how the springbar even exited the front side of the lug as I had rearward pressure on the strap. The area isn't visible with a strap installed. It just irks me that I did this to a new watch that had only been worn a handful of times.
 
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On a separate note, I'm a little pissed about this. Dinged the inside edge of a lug when swapping straps on the Big Eye over the weekend (springbar slipped off my Bergeon tool). How the F soft is this stainless? That ding is from the springbar, not tool damage. I won't be using pointed tipped Sinn springbars on this watch any more...

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Geez, buy the cheap spring bars, not diamond tipped ones.
 

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