Pulled over and stopped at a DUI checkpoint

[caojyn]

but why don't we ever hear about them policing their own?

Blue Code of Silence

 

[streak]

I understand, yet disagree with, the need to pander to LEO's on here that may read this type of thread and be offended. The fact is that police in general have been out of hand for quite some time and its getting worse. Even little things like referring to the public as civilians even though they are civilians themselves is a minor but telling sign of their aloofness. Situations like in the video are far too common because officers seem to care less about what the law actually says than forcing their wills on others. I don't advocate violence of any kind against LEO's but I think we should start making a public spectacle of punishing those that trample the rights of others. On the other side of things, I think we should pay the good ones more. When I was a good guy, the police were the good guys and I was taught that they could be trusted. These days, not so much and I tell my kids to be careful.
I do realize that three are many good police out there, but why don't we ever hear about them policing their own?

well at least we will be banned together! LOL! I hope I am kidding!

 

[Sanford]

filming an officer is neither shouting fire in a theatre, nor is it punching some bystander in the face.
if if anything, it's returning blows. cops film the rest of us, why not return the favor?

Perhaps - but intentionally provoking a confrontation by refusing an act as simply accomplished as rolling down one's window seems well beyond the bounds of "common sense" to me. And yes, I'm guessing that was the motive because there's no other clear reason I can see to have had a camera already set up in place and recording.

 

[otis147]

no other reason to set up dui checkpoints than to skirt constitutional law.

 

[Dukester]

well at least we will be banned together! LOL! I hope I am kidding!

Me too.

 

[Dukester]

Perhaps - but intentionally provoking a confrontation by refusing an act as simply accomplished as rolling down one's window seems well beyond the bounds of "common sense" to me. And yes, I'm guessing that was the motive because there's no other clear reason I can see to have had a camera already set up in place and recording.

So now we need justification to exercise our rights? That's quite the slippery slope you're on there.

 

[KOPBET]

"DUI exception to the Constitution"

 

[WessonOil]

I got bored 2 minutes into it, so how do you know the K9 officer "gave a command" to produce a false alert?


And im sorry Wesson, you don't get documentation saying why you have to do something while on a traffic stop or check point. You do it, or you put your big boy pants on and deal with the consequences of refusing.

Because I watched the entire video and it went into detail about the command given to the dog, as well as the video "replaying" it a few times.

Since you didn't watch the entire video,you're wasting your time debating it.

 

[Dukester]

Because I watched the entire video and it went into detail about the command given to the dog, as well as the video "replaying" it a few times.

Since you didn't watch the entire video,you're wasting your time debating it.

B is for BURN

 

[Sanford]

So now we need justification to exercise our rights? That's quite the slippery slope you're on there.

Where did I say anything about needing justification? What I said was that I believe one needs to use common sense in exercising their rights, and doing so for the specific purpose of creating an incident seems like anything but.

I might have the "right" to poke a bear with a stick, but I don't think that would show much common sense either. If I did it out of ignorance it might be excusable, but if I did it with full knowledge and the expectation (perhaps even desire) for harm to myself I'd have no one else to blame but ... yep, myself.

Not the greatest example but the point is that when we choose to act we bear responsibility for the results of our action. Just because the action happens as we're "exercising our rights" doesn't remove the responsibility. When we choose to exercise our rights stupidly we should be prepared for any negative consequences that result.

That's all meant to apply beyond this specific situation, though. Don't think that I believe the LEO's in this situation acted properly - because I don't - but I certainly don't believe that the driver's completely blameless either.