KRAV MAGA - Free Intro to ICCS Krav Maga Clinic

[MoBoost]

whole new mindset and understanding of real combatives vs agreement based training..

What kind of mindset is that?

I hope you do teach your students, that in combat a bigger/stronger opponent wins 9 out of 10 times, and lots of years of "agreement based training" is the only way to bring down the odds.

Or is it one of those kick-in-the-nuts-solve-all kinda deal?

 

[Oklahoma Combatives]

Mykah we have a free clinic coming up April 5th in OKC. You can register at www.oklahomacombatives.com

I really want to try this...

 

[O4L]

Mykah we have a free clinic coming up April 5th in OKC. You can register at www.oklahomacombatives.com

Is this clinic something an old fat guy that moves a lot slower than he used too could participate in?

 

[Oklahoma Combatives]

LOL. No not quite. Not only was the first drill they showed plain stupid in regards to safety but there is a huge difference from standing in front of a target and shooting, vs cutting corners/clearing rooms, dealing with weapon malfunction while still keeping eye on target and moving at the same time. People often mistake being a great target shooter with being able to perform under pressure while moving and dealing with the multiple factors that come into play. Slightly different than pulling up in the pickup truck, placing the cooler on the tailgate and popping off a few.

As for the hugging and kissing we do have a special class for that. Will you be attending?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rI01qKAqYts

Is it like this or just hugging and kissing jelly roll type stuff?

 

[Oklahoma Combatives]

Mindset is built through our drillls, princples,etc... You have to experience it in order to TRULY understand it. Everyone wins a fight in their mind and everyone thinks they are aggressive. Everyone who comes through our doors has a whole new understanding of mindset.

What we teach our students to do is to win a fight. I would disagree with your statement about a bigger strong person winning 9 times out of 10. Simply not true. I've seen that opinion shattered multiple times. Don't mistake how big your arms are, or how much weight you can lift for your ability to fight.

Lots of years of agreement training? When I refer to "agreement training" I'm talking about martial arts, mma,etc... Those are agreements.. In other words there are rules that are followed by both people.. they will fight a certain way and they won't do certain things. Also in an agreement setting its one on one. When was the last time you saw a jiujitsu expert take on 4 guys at once? Or stop a brutal knife attack?

You mentioned something about "years of training"..something to consider.. Israelis have to serve at least 3 years in the military. That's a requirement for all of the citizens.. It is the combative instructor's job to take these new soldiers and turn them into lethal combatants in a short amount time. If it took years as you say that would be a pretty ineffective way of training soldiers. REAL Krav Maga is simple (easy to learn), aggressive and very effective.

Here's a little something from one of the guys I train under (Chief Head Instructor out of Israel)
What is real Krav Maga?

Krav Maga is not a martial art, it’s a combat/fighting system designed to save lives.

In Martial arts, many of the techniques are choreographed to look nice, but in reality would never work.
Only in real Krav Maga, techniques are changed and adapted to the always changing battlefield.

Krav Maga is the Hebrew words for Contact Combat, simple as that.

Krav Maga was designed so that everyone could understand it, and actually be able to use it in real life situations. In Israel all the 18 year old boys and girls must serve for three years in the military. It’s the Krav Maga instructor’s job, in the short time that he has, to insure these young men and women will have what it takes to minimize the damage and survive in close combat battle. This is why more than the techniques, the work is on the mind set, and the principles of what it takes to stay alive.

Under pressure, a person’s capability of performing the technique he learned will go down by 50%. That’s why the emphasis of real Krav Maga training is on the mind set, and the principles, while keeping the techniques simple.

If it’s not simple, it’s not Krav Maga. Unfortunately, today there are many schools who claim to be teaching “self defense”, but in reality there techniques are all choreographed and fancy. If it’s choreographed it can’t be reality based self defense, and certainly not Krav Maga. It’s a Martial art. The question in a person’s mind when practicing Krav Maga should always be “can I really use this under the pressure of a real fight?”

- Sharir Richman (ICCS Chief Head Instructor Israel)

What kind of mindset is that?

I hope you do teach your students, that in combat a bigger/stronger opponent wins 9 out of 10 times, and lots of years of "agreement based training" is the only way to bring down the odds.

Or is it one of those kick-in-the-nuts-solve-all kinda deal?

 

[Oklahoma Combatives]

OLD Phart

Absolutely. This is an intro. We're not turning you guys into soldiers in 4 short hours
There will be quite a bit of info...some drills..etc... But if you need to take a break you take a break... No shame in that.

I would encourage you to check it out... its something you've never done or witnessed before so try something new

Is this clinic something an old fat guy that moves a lot slower than he used too could participate in?

 

[mouthpiece]

LOL. No not quite. Not only was the first drill they showed plain stupid in regards to safety but there is a huge difference from standing in front of a target and shooting, vs cutting corners/clearing rooms, dealing with weapon malfunction while still keeping eye on target and moving at the same time. People often mistake being a great target shooter with being able to perform under pressure while moving and dealing with the multiple factors that come into play. Slightly different than pulling up in the pickup truck, placing the cooler on the tailgate and popping off a few.

As for the hugging and kissing we do have a special class for that. Will you be attending?

If it's just hugging and kissing, I could do that.
As far as wraslin, no way. Just had one shoulder surgery and the other is in need of a surgery.
I'm more apt to make space and shoot before i'll wrasle with someone.

 

[MoBoost]

I would disagree with your statement about a bigger strong person winning 9 times out of 10. Simply not true. I've seen that opinion shattered multiple times. Don't mistake how big your arms are, or how much weight you can lift for your ability to fight.

The only instant equalizer that I know of is a firearm (oh, welcome to Oklahoma Shooters by the way). A bigger person can withstand and deliver more damage from/to a smaller person. While getting clocked in the nads hurts like hell - it is not a fight-ender or a "win" by any means; unlike a cold knock-out from a hit (or drop on) to the head - aka boxing, kick-boxing, muay-thai, wrestling, judo, etc "agreement" type training. Sorry, bub, to learn how to knock a person out you got to get into the ring; pretending that hammerfist to the back of the neck or face stomp will do the job - is still pretending.

I still stand by my opinion, for a smaller person to deliver meaningful damage to a larger/stronger opponent takes years of serious training or a weapon - groin kicking/eye gouging/biting/breaking fingers/fish-hooking does "sound" violent, but in reality will only result in escalation of violence. If that's not clear - well ... it should be.

Krav Maga was designed so that everyone could understand it, and actually be able to use it in real life situations. In Israel all the 18 year old boys and girls must serve for three years in the military. It’s the Krav Maga instructor’s job, in the short time that he has, to insure these young men and women will have what it takes to minimize the damage and survive in close combat battle. This is why more than the techniques, the work is on the mind set, and the principles of what it takes to stay alive.

I'll reply with a quote as well:
The stuff you teach the recruits is designed to allow for dominance games without injury to your troops. And yet to also instill confidence and the willingness to engage.

In short, the 'combat effectiveness' of what is being taught as Krav Maga to civilians is overwhelmingly advertising.

The day that the Israel Army gives up rifles, much less tanks, jets and rockets, is the day I'll believe it's not more about instilling the willingness to fight and a safe way for testosterone pumped, soldiers to compete, establish dominance and safely channel aggression without hurting each other. Because that ain't what combat is about, no matter what the advertising and fanatics say.


source: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/Krav.html <-- EXCELLENT READ OVERALL!!!

 

[AKguy1985]

I'd like to learn some krav maga. Just in case a situation comes up where I need it.

 

[Mike_60]

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