Supreme Court backs Hobby Lobby

[RidgeHunter]

That's it?

I'm not that poor and I'm not a republican. I'm a working man who doesn't mind buying you a slab of ribs and a cold beer, but I'll be damned if I want to my hard earned money to pay for you to get laid. If that's what you want, I get to pick your partner.

It's amazing that liberals always claim that conservatives are the ones milking the government, yet it's always the stereotypical liberal we see on YouTube bragging about their free Obamaphones and complaining that a Obamacare isn't free.

It was the general you, not the literal you, Jeff.

I don't want anyone to pay for me getting laid, unless you want to pay my way to a Nevada brothel for Christmas. My old lady is cool with it. She wants to come too, though.

If you think Obamacare is unsound public health/economic policy...I'm not gonna raise a stink about that. This SCOTUS ruling was not about "free birth control". It was about the whiny Christian right using psuedoscience like a toddler getting back at their sibling for a perceived wrong. Fight against corporations being mandated to provide employee medication coverage. At least the ecomonic conservatives that take that stance have a train of logic behing it. But quit crying over microscopic dots on the end of a Tampon. Act like men, GOP.

Pick one. Is it about not giving free birth control to "sluts" like you say? Then why are they covering other forms of BC if that's the case? I don't remember that being the argument presented to the SCOTUS.

 

[TedKennedy]

The working class used to lean left. Until they got scared of black people in the 60s and subsequently got convinced they are one day of hard work away from being millionaires.

Funny how red states are welfare states, and funny how every Okie I know that takes handouts except for one is a righty. I have a liberal friend from a conservative family...she's the only one to never take assistance. Lawl. Poor republicans are funny.

Didn't you use that line just recently? It is clever.
I'm not sure any of us working class so frightened by black people are convinced about the getting rich thing, but maybe we're convinced we'd like to keep what we earn, and resent the shift from self-reliant to guvmint teat.
The GOP certainly doesn't represent liberty-loving folks any more than the Dems do, but you make some pretty broad assumptions about who and why folks disagree about the HL decision.

 

[RidgeHunter]

but you make some pretty broad assumptions about who and why folks disagree about the HL decision.

People make broad assumptions about any opposition to the ruling. Pretty much everyone in this thread views disagreeing with this ruling as being incongruous with opposing Obamacare. Plenty of people disagree with this ruling and also oppose the ACA.

And it's not "us working class so frightened by black people" anymore. Don't be silly. That was just the realignment that began to give us the modern GOP. Ya know, back in the Nixon/Philips/Goldwater days when Republicans actually knew how to write a semi-successful playbook.

 

[SoonerP226]

Funny how red states are welfare states, and funny how every Okie I know that takes handouts except for one is a righty.

What are you defining as "handouts?"

 

[RidgeHunter]

What are you defining as "handouts?"

The other side was sharing personal anecdotes, so I thought I would. I know several people who receive gov't assistance. Mainly food assistance and/or WIC. Only one of them is a liberal.

 

[donner]

IIf your skank can't keep her legs together until she's on the pill she needs to bear the responsibility of terminating the fertilized egg on her own. I'm sorry that your parents did not teach you personal responsibility or morals, but that's your problem, not your employers.

So, if we're not paying for the 'after the party' can employers also refuse to cover meds for STDs? AIDS? How about pregnancy? I mean if they aren't going to cover a pill if the condom breaks then should they cover the pregnancy? You know, since no form of birth control pill is 100% effective and all.

 

[Shootin 4 Fun]

So, if we're not paying for the 'after the party' can employers also refuse to cover meds for STDs? AIDS? How about pregnancy? I mean if they aren't going to cover a pill if the condom breaks then should they cover the pregnancy? You know, since no form of birth control pill is 100% effective and all.

If preventative birth control fails the pregnancy and birth should be covered. If a chick can't think far enough ahead to use preventative birth control, she can buy the morning after pill. Maybe her date will leave $50 on the night stand.

 

[Grindstone]

Too much ignorant hyperbole and stawman arguments, with a healthy dash of sexist name-calling for good measure.

I hope you sing the same tune when a Muslim business (since businesses have religions now) decides that gelatin pills are no long going to be part of the insurance employees pay for.

Speaking of which, where do you all work at that provides insurance for free? I've never heard of that. I'd like to get in on it.

 

[JD8]

And if your argument is that she can buy them without insurance, supporters are delusional & misinformed. An average woman working to support herself can't afford birth control pills without insurance's aide

Yeah I'm gonna say this is complete BS after years of working in a service industry. There are several ways to find cheap or free birth control.

 

[Glocktogo]

You don't have to support the ACA to find the SCOTUS ruling ridiculous. I don't know why that is so connfusing.

Fight to get rid of the ACA. Don't take your Christian Exception Cookie and go home. Get rid if it for everyone. How selfish and lame. Yes, the left is selfish. The right is too. They will lie and whine and do anything they can to strike a blow at the feared "leftist agenda", whether it's good for the country or not.

Well at least you qualified that diatribe! LOL

Like it or not, you can't have it both ways. You can't expect someopne else to pay for your health care and then dictate all the terms without their input. That's hypocritical. Demanding that your governemnt save you from "the bad man" who's paying your bills and providing you with a health insurance plan is the epitome of a crybaby.