Motorists.
how so?
i see where you said, "Doesn't say anything about allowing cyclist to ride 2-3 abreast. "
is it specific or silent? does that mean it's legal or illegal? Or did i miss your link?
and i'm sure you are of the belief that the law is always clear on what is and isn't 'safe', right?
There are plenty of groups in tulsa who'd set you up for a ride if you'd like to actually experience what you're happy to legislate. It's like taking an anti to the range.
The law states that riders cannot ride multiple abreast unless passing or overtaking. It doesn't say anything about allowing for riding abreast for greater visibility.
I do not need to go for a ride with these people. I'm not anti cyclists. I'm anti cyclists on busy streets. They should take their ride to the 40+ miles of bike trails in Tulsa or even to a nearby low traffic volume state highway.
You don't think that a motorist can be physically harmed in an accident with a cyclist or herd, gaggle, flock or whatever a group of cyclists are?
i apologize for missing you link, do you mind kindly reposting it? I know it does vary by state.
and again, i'm glad to know you feel the law is always right when it comes to what is and isn't 'safe'. I don't know what Oklahoma law says, but i do know that increasing a group's visibility is a good thing.
which road are you referring to, if you don't mind me asking? I might have missed it, but i don't think you said.
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group is one option. Professionals call it a peloton. Moms, dads, sons, daughters. It's up to you. People probably covers it.
And it'd certainly take a lot to hurt someone in a car. I'm not sure i've ever heard of it, in fact. Do you have an example? I know they've injured pedestrians, but not sure about someone in a car.
Memorial Drive
§47-11-1205
A. Every person operating a bicycle . . . upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of
traffic ... shall ride as close as is safe to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except
under any of the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction;
2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway;
3. When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions and while exercising due care, including but
not limited to:
a. fixed or moving objects,
b. parked or moving vehicles,
c. pedestrians or animals,
d. surface hazards, or
e. any time it is unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway; and
4. When riding in the right-turn-only lane.
http://www.okbike.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=86708&module_id=157621
§47-11-1205
A. Every person operating a bicycle . . . upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of
traffic ... shall ride as close as is safe to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except
under any of the following situations:
1. When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction;
2. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway;
3. When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions and while exercising due care, including but
not limited to:
a. fixed or moving objects,
b. parked or moving vehicles,
c. pedestrians or animals,
d. surface hazards, or
e. any time it is unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway; and
4. When riding in the right-turn-only lane.
http://www.okbike.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=86708&module_id=157621
low traffic state highways are typically the *most* dangerous for bicyclists...that would literally be sending bicyclists to their death for your convenience
Thanks. The 'including but not limited to' and the "any time it is unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway" are important. If you aren't willing to go ride with them, how do you know it's 'safe' to ride single file? I'm certainly not saying single file wouldn't be better. Frankly, i don't know what their exact situation is. I do know from experience that it might not be, but again, the situation at that moment might dictate one approach or another.
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