Ahmaud Arbery

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Not sure if I’ve asked you yet in all these replies. Would you like to bet $100 on whether they get convicted of murder or not? I say not. Opinions are like a—holes, we’ve both got one.


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Not sure what the sentencing options are but I believe they are charged with felony murder. We’ll have to see what charges they go to trial with and if the jury is allowed to pick lesser charges.

They will not get off Scott free.
 

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They didn’t suddenly present with a shotgun. The guy ran from the house. What’s laughable is your refusal to see what the videos clearly show.


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******** they didn't suddenly present with a shotgun, he got out of the truck holding it. And again, they had no legal right to stop Arbery.

Hell, you want a lawyer's opinion. lets get one.

 

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******** they didn't suddenly present with a shotgun, he got out of the truck holding it. And again, they had no legal right to stop Arbery.

Hell, you want a lawyer's opinion. lets get one.


For those that will take the time to watch that video. It lays it out pretty clearly.
 

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Hopefully this link will open in front of the paywall. It did for me.

Yes, this guy recused himself but that only makes his opinion legally irrelevant, it does NOT mean he's wrong. It's going to be interesting to see if his take on it being a legal citizen's arrest pans out. The way Colion explained it, it doesn't seem kosher but he doesn't have the info this DA does either.


https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...JcqvM03N1AZs_67Ur2Y_6TAjr16Y_E1Xwu4OtE#page=1
 

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Not sure if I’ve asked you yet in all these replies. Would you like to bet $100 on whether they get convicted of murder or not? I say not. Opinions are like a—holes, we’ve both got one.


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I doubt they get convicted of anything resembling premeditated murder. Maybe manslaughter.

I really expect some more evidence to be presented that will show Arbery in a worse light, and more justification of these two. There is no doubt in my mind that the media is painting this all one way, and there's more to the story.

LA, Ferguson, La Crosse team, Smollet, the 12 year old that claimed white boys cut her dreads off...the media stokes this crap and wants to paint the narrative sooooo bad. They ain't gonna show any evidence supporting the two crackers until they absolutely have to.

If they do get set free, I expect an organized and orderly reaction from the community.

But I'm gonna stock up on popcorn just in case.
 

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Hopefully this link will open in front of the paywall. It did for me.

Yes, this guy recused himself but that only makes his opinion legally irrelevant, it does NOT mean he's wrong. It's going to be interesting to see if his take on it being a legal citizen's arrest pans out. The way Colion explained it, it doesn't seem kosher but he doesn't have the info this DA does either.


https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...JcqvM03N1AZs_67Ur2Y_6TAjr16Y_E1Xwu4OtE#page=1

The recused DA’s rationale for not charging is pretty much torn apart by Noir’s breakdown. The GBI had access to all the information and more and decided to charge felony murder. When they finally found a DA that wasn’t connected, that DA saw enough to refer to a grand jury.

Like I said before, you can’t take the opinion of a recused DA (who has now been condemned for his handling of the case by the national DA’s association) with personal and/or professional connections to the defendants as gospel while simultaneously dismissing the opinions of another DA and the state’ investigative agency. Are there more facts we don’t know? Are politics in play? Most certainly. Is Arbery’s side playing up the race angle? Absolutely. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t murdered.

Arbery doesn’t have to be a “good kid” for this to be a bad shooting.
The McMichaels don’t have to be evil KKK members for this to be a bad shooting either.
 

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Walking into a dwelling that you don't own isn't trespassing? Could you cite the law? Other sources are saying different.

The internet is your friend. You are just as capable of looking up the code section as I am. I am very familiar with trespass law in Georgia since many of Georgia's gun laws intersect trespass laws. Georgia is my home state and that is where I went to law school. I can say with 100% certainty, there was NO TRESPASSING in this case. It's not even a gray area.

Most people have the wrong idea of what trespassing entails. As a cable tech I enter back yards all the time without the homeowner's direct consent. The reason this is not trespassing is I have a legitimate reason to enter that yard and my company has easement access rights granted to us by the cities and counties that our service is active in. When someone purchases a house there is a section that spells out what easements are on the property and states that those services that are in the easement have the right to get to the easement even if they have to cross the property to do so.

Easements almost NEVER include the interior of the structure. People get tripped up on Georgia trespass law because of the notice requirement. Signage alone rarely satisfy the notice requirement according to years of Georgia case law.

I'm not so sure about that. The owners of the house had cameras set up. Leading a reasonable person to believe that nobody had permission to enter the property, without their consent. One could also make a case that he wasn't there for lawful reasons. He's literally staring down the materials, looking for something to take.

Cameras on a location is not notice and I have *never* read case law that would make the legal argument (successfully) that a reasonable person would take a camera to be sufficient notice to "not trespass", especially with the large number of cameras that are out there. And looking for something to take? Yeah...sure looks like that to me.

He charged, attacked, and tried to disarm the defendant. And he lost his life doing so. Unfortunate, but I’m ok with that. From all the evidence I have seen, the defendants never placed a hand on him or pointed a firearm at him before they were attacked.

If I’m open carrying and someone attacks and tries to disarm me, it is very likely that someone is going to get shot. And I’m going to do everything in my power to see that it is not me on the receiving end of that gunshot.


I have very little sympathy for criminals and when they become victim of their own doing. That’s what I see here.

Attack? Really? And a criminal? Again, what crime did he commit? No need to answer, because it appears very clear that he didn't commit ANY CRIME. Those guys are going to spend a long time in the Georgia correctional system.

Couple hung juries and they’ll have a nice dinner from the money left over from their GoFundMe page.
It’s Georgia.

Yep, that's not going to happen. The appointed DA is from a county that is full of bulldog prosecutors and the "it's Georgia" isn't going to apply...especially when they have a change in venue due to press coverage. Those guys are going to rot in prison.

The DA disagreed with your assessment on legality. Are you an attorney?

You mean the DA that is part of the Glynn County good 'ole boy system? The DA that has nothing to do with this case now? Funny how the GBI director (who is also an attorney) seemed to have found PC pretty damn fast. And before people get all riled up saying that the GBI director (and state AG) are just a bunch of Demorats, do a little research on them. Vic Reynolds is the GBI Director and Chris Carr is the AG. What the Glynn County DA has to say means absolutely nothing in this case.

Hell, you want a lawyer's opinion. lets get one.

You're wasting your time. I'm one and am even pretty familiar with Georgia law, but my opinion is met with nothing but, "NO...THAT BLACKMAN DESERVED TO DIE!!!"
 
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