1911 Pistols: Colt v Springfield Armory

[OK Corgi Rancher]

So tell me about the 1000s of LEOs that carried them my friend, I know some. When did your department adopt them. The revolver was the mainstream from every Leo I know. The public wasn’t carrying them.

Are you talking about the caliber or the 1911?

I started carrying a S&W 645 (a semi-auto .45ACP) in the late 80s or early 90s. But "mainstream" doesn't just apply to law enforcement. And I was more shocked that you said the .45ACP caliber was never mainstream when it's been either the number 1 or number 2 selling handgun cartridge for years in this country.

And I continued to carry a .45 of one brand or another thruout my career. Even when I worked for a department that mandated Glock 22 or 23 models be carried on duty I carried a Colt 1911 as an instructor and while performing SWAT duties.

There's a list of departments a mile long that either authorized or issued 1911s...from the FBI HRT to LAPD to dinky little little departments nationwide.

And many makers produce 1911s for civilian carry as well and the sell as many as they can build. That's part of the reason the Commander and Officer sized guns are so popular.

 

[ttown]

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As I said the revolver far out strip the 45 ACP and the 9mm as well as the 22 lr numbers aren’t even close. Have real links with stats?

The 38/357 numbers would be interesting as well

Youve got over 100 years on your side but they aren’t all that into days world..

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Great... What am I supposed to be looking at there?

 

[ChrisWilson]

I’ve got a Springfield 1911 I’ve had for 25 years or more! I love it was my first 1911, wife got it for my birthday. A very respected gunsmith at the time was a good friend of mine and did some work on it! I’ll never get rid of it! I’ve also got 2 colts, one a basic government model the other a trophy gold cup my wife got me for our 30th anniversary! Love ‘‘em all!!

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

I don't think you're being a butt but it sounds like you might be off your meds a little...

 

[KroyWen]

Take five

 

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[HiredHand]

Yes...I realize the guns that were in service were long overdue for replacement. You realize you don't need to be condescending in everything you say, right?

And what "most recent attempts" are you referring to? There have been several. Colt outfitted the Marines with the M45A1 not too many years ago. Some units are still using them.

I was direct with my comment. I wasn’t being condescending, and even suggested a good source that has a reliable method for testing a 1911(s) function. YOU copped an attitude about it.

Ah yes! The Colt M45 had a very short service life before it was replaced by a Glock 19.

MARSOC Chooses Glock 19s over .45s for Raiders

Marine Corps Special Operations Command has decided to shelve its custom .45 pistols and outfit its elite Raiders with the Glock 19.MARSOC has not yet responded to Military.com’s questions for the story, but a source familiar the effort said the command made the decision within the last month.

www.military.com

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

I was under the impression ALL Marines are now issued the M18. Also, I'm fairly certain they were allowed to choose between the M45 and G19 prior to the switch to the M18.

 

[BadKarma]

Who TF is Hilton Yam?

That's a great question.