6yr old grandson suspended from school

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Pulled out a bic lighter he brought from home and showing off to other kids and set fire to some leaves on the playground. Miniature burn nothing damaged BUT School was not amused and zero toleranced him.
My daughter is on the verge of mommacide with her boys. She had just busted her 12yr old and the 6 yr old both for building a campfire in a firepit at a friend's yard without permission last week. She explained fire ban conditions and the need for permission. Lots of disrespectful back talk and failure to do as told on house manners has been a problem of late. She said if she started hitting them she might lose her cool so she has avoided spanking. She is a great boy's mom but their hooligan attitude has her bent.
I told her to confiscate their BB guns and tell them I saiď being stupid with fire means no guns to have fun with.
She asked me what else. I will be there next week and I will take him to the fire station and let the firemen tell him just how serious it is. I did that with my daughters over candle safety issues in their room when they were young. Scared them good. No more careless candles.
I have had to debride a burned kid who had playing with gas when I worked at St Francis. Burned kids is the worst.
I burned the seat cover of my mom's 1958 Chevy with a magnefying glass out of crackerjax. She was madder than hell and beat me and both of my brother's butts in the grocery store parking lot to make sure it never happened again. No wonder my brothers dont like me...
My parents didnt refrain from physical discipline. My wife and I dont refrain from it either when it is needed. All the kids in the family whose parents refuse to give their kids a spanking are pretty low on good behavior. They dont get their way, outright tantrum throwing. Not in my house, we dont play that game. If I disrespected my mother, when dad got home he was already briefed and had a plan to deal with me, and he won 10/10 times on that deal. I now follow the same thing, you disrespect momma and Im going to handle it. But you cant force people to raise kids any particular way, but society is paying for all the passive parenting! I was taught how to make fires and made fires all the time, I got in trouble some but youre not supposed to make a fire in the bathroom sink.
 
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When I caught my sons playing with matches, I took them to a campground with fire rings, and we played with fire.
They are curious about the unknown, so used it instead of a swat as a teaching moment.
Told them anytime they wanted to play with fire, just let me know and we would do whatever they wanted within reason to satisfy their curiosity. We melted glass bottles, melted soda cans, and then showed them the proper way to put out a fire so it wouldn't be a danger after leaving it.
After the first time, they never messed with fire again that I'm aware of anyway.
I think this works with firearms and knives also. Kill the curiosity and teach them legitimate skills.
 
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I still am. How is it that no one questioned a 14 year old kid buying a pound of shotgun powder at the Skaggs on 41st in Tulsa back in the '70's? Use your imagination for the rest of the story.....
That was a normal thing back then. Now if that same kid bought a gallon of kerosene along with the black powder that might erase some eyebrows.🤔😁
 
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That was a normal thing back then. Now if that same kid bought a gallon of kerosene along with the black powder that might erase some eyebrows.🤔😁

No kidding. If I was the clerk I'da been like, "Hey, kid. Whatever you're gonna do with this stuff, I wanna watch."

But all joking aside, that's a tough situation to balance discipline, love, and education.
 

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