A Citizen Eco-Drive lack of info gripe...

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Yeah, I know folk wear them, with no problem ever, so long as they don't store them in the dark for extended periods, but much depends upon lifestyle, including environmental lighting, household lighting, watch wearing habits, whatever.

Cruising the net shows I am not the only one frustrated by lack of hard info, even though a minority, most of us minority want to know and understand machines we own, and treat them properly for max service life.

Citizen provides info for only essentially three lighting/charging scenarios, direct sun at max lux as well as overcast max lux (which is obtained only by pointing directly at sun), and then fluorescent lighting near and far, and then incandescent bulbs (and who uses/has those now?), with zero info on now common LED lighting.

Those of us with experience with assorted batteries used in machines know that for most varieties, including lithium-ion, running until completely depleted is bad for them, and with lithium-ion, most folk know today, thanks to cell phone use, that leaving one at 100% charge is also bad, and in general a battery lasts best when taken to full charge and exercised across a wide spectrum of charge levels through use and recharging, without running them down until dead.

The problem with a new Citizen is that on most of them there is no way to know how long it has been in the dark box, nor charge level, while their advice is to immediately and fully charge (with no way to know when fully charged) in direct sun for what amounts to nearly two days, while severely increasing that time if charged through a window due to THEIR windows filtering/coatings, such as four times the time for charging on an overcast day, which is a loooong time by its lonesome....

My household interior lighting is notable by its lack, I use a stove hood light when cooking, a laundry alcove light when washing clothes, a bathroom which stays fully lit 24/7, and a bedside lamp in bedroom....I stay outside almost entire day near year round, but generally out of direct sun...my only interior charging possible worth a tinker's damn is to hang a watch in bathroom near lavatory light bar which has four LED bulbs of unknown charging ability.....leaving any other lights running or buying a special "solar" charging gizmo just for the watch defeats the entire purpose of the watch in extra expense and power use.
AND I like to put on a watch and leave it on except for showers.

Am sure the watch will work fine with my habits, no doubt about that, even with winter incoming and watch hidden under sleeve for months....but it WOULD be nice to get it up to a full charge now, and KNOW it at full charge, without resorting to leaving it outside for a couple of days where a crow, raccoon, or packrat might take a liking to it enough to add to their own collection.
 
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I agree. They should put "not intended for use by vampires" in the manual.

It's funny you should say that, because I AM A VAMPIRE! 🧛‍♂️

Seriously, I work 11pm-7am M-F. I think that qualifies me as one. I own two Citizen EcoDrives :heart: and luckily, I've never had an issue with either with time loss or a dead battery.

I spend a lot of time in an office with fluorescent lights and when I'm not wearing them, they stay under a lamp.

But I'd still rather have my EcoDrives or even a quartz over a mechanical or automatic.

zip, zip, zip flamesuit on! :flamed:
 

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It's funny you should say that, because I AM A VAMPIRE! 🧛‍♂️

Seriously, I work 11pm-7am M-F. I think that qualifies me as one. I own two Citizen EcoDrives :heart: and luckily, I've never had an issue with either with time loss or a dead battery.

I spend a lot of time in an office with fluorescent lights and when I'm not wearing them, they stay under a lamp.

But I'd still rather have my EcoDrives or even a quartz over a mechanical or automatic.

zip, zip, zip flamesuit on! :flamed:
I agree on them perfect watches needing little to zero, mine is a fave as you know, and will be trouble free for me as well.

I'd just like to know, with no guesswork, that I was starting long sleeve season with a full charge past leaving them tied to a sun tracking observatory for two full days of cloudless skies.

I, also, worked swing shift and graveyard for pretty much entire career, a much more peaceable life without all the idiots in charge around causing me to waste my time doing things utterly divorced from real job at hand, and whose only purpose was to make them look better.
 
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I agree on them perfect watches needing little to zero, mine is a fave as you know, and will be trouble free for me as well.

I'd just like to know, with no guesswork, that I was starting long sleeve season with a full charge past leaving them tied to a sun tracking observatory for two full days of cloudless skies.

I, also, worked swing shift and graveyard for pretty much entire career, a much more peaceable life without all the idiots in charge around causing me to waste my time doing things utterly divorced from real job at hand, and whose only purpose was to make them look better.

Luckily, I don't hafta worry about long sleeves, because I don't wear em! 🤣 I think I only have one for dressing up. Ya know, whenever someone kicks or gets hitched, but yeah other than a light windbreaker or my Levi's jean jacket on super cold days, I just don't wear em. I reckon I'm part polar bear.
 

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I have one that has gone k poot because of that very thing. How does the owner to know such? 😡
The watch was a gift from a very good friend too
There's a lot of that around...the manual is emphatic on putting it direct sun for prescribed time, but past that gets vague, while doing exactly as it says is actually not an easy thing. Folk have researched the issue to include using luxometers, and them showing the only way you can meet initial factory standard is by having watch face directly at sun for that entire 14hrs total time or whatever that movement manual demands. They obviously work well for most, but most about live under bright artificial lighting. I was reading of someone in the sub-arctic who had to leave theirs clipped with a clothespin to an LED reading lamp a portion of each day to keep it running during the great amount of time there was zero direct sunlight, and long sleeves a lot of the time there was direct sunlight available at all. My case is not nearly so bad, so it will work.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I inherited a Citizen Eco Driver from our daughter. Nice watch but to small for my wrist, and to fancy for my taste. After reading this thread I did take it out of my desk drawer. I will be selling it once I find a value on it.
 

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