...waiting for the village idiot to come along about massive depressurization causing the plane to plummet to its doom and everyone to die
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...waiting for the village idiot to come along about massive depressurization causing the plane to plummet to its doom and everyone to die
Nice point, Dave (great name, BTW), but since they don't, it's not really comparable. This isn't "what if they do?" It is "they do." What if monkeys suddenly flew out of my butt? Isn't currently happening, and more than likely (hopefully) won't ever.
Your turn.
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In none of those cases do I surrender my rights.
I have no expectation of privacy at Walmart, Target or anywhere that has security cameras. I do have a right to not be searched by them.
Anytime I sign and NDA it is my choice to do so. Again, it's not the government doing it so it's not a violation.
Safety, or freedom. You choose
big pet peeve of mine: FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES.
That said...
Do you believe it would be right for the government to screen restaurant patrons after a series of suicide bombings at popular restaurants?
You really don't get it,do you? At what point do we say enough?? The terrorists have soundly defeated us.They have forced us to spend billions of dollars in the name of "security",forced us to completely change our way of life.One would have to wonder how 9/11 would have turned out if each flight had a couple of armed capable citizens on board.Maybe we wouldn't be having this discussion today.
we must be in the same boat then since you don't seem to get it, either. An armed citizen wont do squat against a bomb (and bombs have gotten through metal detectors and x-rays). Yes, armed citizens would have made a difference on 9/11, but not against the shoe bomber or underwear bomber (which both could have brought down the planes had things worked).
The point where i say enough is enough is when the government wants to install them in courthouses or other places i might be legally compelled to visit. As of right now, though, it hasn't done that. If i don't want to be scanned then i wont fly.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, I implore you."
Reading this entire thread (why God, why???) I have to wonder if some people even read what they type.
What? Do you think I'm talking about you? If you have nothing to hide, why do you think I'm addressing you?
Lawl. Fingernails on a chalkboard.
"Ladies and gentlemen, I implore you."
Reading this entire thread (why God, why???) I have to wonder if some people even read what they type.
What? Do you think I'm talking about you? If you have nothing to hide, why do you think I'm addressing you?
Lawl. Fingernails on a chalkboard.
Sorry about that, a slip i will correct.
I don't think the government's interest is so much to prevent bad things from happening at the restaurant, but if it tried to put them in place there then i would go somewhere else. As i've said all along, it's a choice to use that service.
I think airlines are a bit different since airplanes have been used as weapons to kill large numbers of people and are easily moved from place to place. Unless it's a taco truck, i don't see the government doing that at a restaurant.
it's festivus, we're airing our grievances
and I agree with redmax, the terrorists won in our country the second Bush signed the patriot act into law and the TSA was established.
I have no problem going through the metal detectors or being wanded. I do have a problem with the just announced last month “Enhanced Pat Down” procedures.
The stupid body scanners aren’t there to protect us from anything. The only conspiracy here is one that is as old as the hills. It is greed. This is about selling us billions of dollars worth of hardware we neither want or need. Seriously folks, TSA, Homeland Security and everyone else already know that if you want to get a fork, knife or spoon on a damn plane you simply order a steak from TGI Fridays in the concourse which is PAST security. Of course the whole no knives or fingernail clippers thing is stupid anyway. I would guess that if 10 men armed with steak knives tried to hijack anything they would just get the crap beat out of them these days.
If a stranger came up to my wife or child and did the same thing as TSA with their new “Enhanced Pat Down” procedures they would be arrested for sexual assault. “After they got out of the hospital”.
If in the name of some false sense of security we let “ANYONE” grope our private areas we as a society have some serious reflecting to do.
I guess at the end of the day my thoughts are simply this. If we will let someone fondle our wife’s breasts or our children’s privates, what will we not accept?
The stupid body scanners aren’t there to protect us from anything. The only conspiracy here is one that is as old as the hills. It is greed. This is about selling us billions of dollars worth of hardware we neither want or need. Seriously folks, TSA, Homeland Security and everyone else already know that if you want to get a fork, knife or spoon on a damn plane you simply order a steak from TGI Fridays in the concourse which is PAST security. Of course the whole no knives or fingernail clippers thing is stupid anyway. I would guess that if 10 men armed with steak knives tried to hijack anything they would just get the crap beat out of them these days.
If a stranger came up to my wife or child and did the same thing as TSA with their new “Enhanced Pat Down” procedures they would be arrested for sexual assault. “After they got out of the hospital”.
If in the name of some false sense of security we let “ANYONE” grope our private areas we as a society have some serious reflecting to do.
I guess at the end of the day my thoughts are simply this. If we will let someone fondle our wife’s breasts or our children’s privates, what will we not accept?
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