My buddy was out Elk hunting this weekend in Montana and stumbled across a Grizzly eating a moose. HE saw the bear at 35 yards it saw him and there they stood for 10 seconds. Thankfully the bear decided to go the other way. He thought for sure his time had come. All he had was his bow and a 10mm pistol with 16+1. We talked afterward and he is trying to figure out how to now carry a 12g with slugs while also carrying his bow.