Like I have said there are no out of the box boots that fit my feet.I have tried Ariat,Nocona,Justin,Tony Lama, Larry Mayhan,Lucchessee,Twisted X and a few more.The western store my Dad owned sold enough Luchessee boots the area supervisor was nice enough to have boots made especially for me.He isn't around anymore and I am sure the reason he went to such trouble was that we bought several thousand dollars worth of boot from him over the years.