Wish I still had my old Savage. I thought $18 a box was bad until I went somewhere else and saw some $40, it was the Super X not the white box but that is hardly a $20+ upgrade. I could not believe it. I admire the guy's boldness but I don't know how you do that with a straight face. I'm sure I had enough 12g 00, I just wanted to see what it felt like to pay $3 a round for it. Can't say I enjoyed it.