ATF allegedly drafting ban on private gun sales

[Frederick]

WHISTLEBLOWERS ALLEGE DOJ LOOKING TO BAN PRIVATE SALES OF FIREARMS - Empower Oversight

WASHINGTON – Empower Oversight has learned from sources that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has drafted a 1,300 page document attempting to justify a rule pursuing citizens for the private sale of firearms. Empower has also learned from its sources that the...

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DOJ, ATF Pressed Over Plans For Unconstitutional Regulation Of Gun Sales

The ATF’s Eric Epstein allegedly drafted a 1,300-page document affirming the White House’s desire for background checks on private gun sales.

thefederalist.com

https://dailycaller.com/2024/01/31/whistleblowers-allege-atf-is-drafting-rule-that-could-effectively-ban-private-firearm-sales/

The whistleblowers say the rule is being drafted by Senior Policy Counsel Eric Epstein, who worked as the Phoenix Field Office's Division Counsel during Operation Wide Received (a precursor of Operation Fast and Furious).
Such a sweeping rule with the effect of banning private sales would clearly violate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which declares that “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Not sure if true but a FOIA request has been filed seeking more info…allegedly they’re drafting a 1300 page document to justify an ATF regulation outlawing all private (no background check) sales in the United States

 

[Beautiful Mulberry]

Hell with them. They can not make or enforce laws.

 

[Glocktogo]

If true, I’d pay to see Clarence Thomas shove all 1300 pages up Dettelbach’s ass!

 

[boocat71]

I'm not sure how to but this. If they say everyone is Essentially a ffl then all citizens can order straight from distributors.

 

[glassparman]

They may try to ban stuff but as Beautiful Mulberry said, they can't make laws. That is a legislative process.

Let's all pray that SCOTUS makes a proper ruling on the latest "Chevron Difference" style case coming up.

 

[retrieverman]

The govt has been salivating about banning private gun sales for years, but I think even those brainless morons realize there’s no way to enforce it.
What I think we’ll see is more undercover stings on individuals that sell at gun shows.

 

[commandcomm]

If the gun is purchased within the state one resides, then the federal gov’t has no authority as it is a state matter.

If the gun is shipped or transported between states, then the federal can have authority over the transaction.

 

[Glocktogo]

If the gun is purchased within the state one resides, then the federal gov’t has no authority as it is a state matter.

If the gun is shipped or transported between states, then the federal can have authority over the transaction.

Absolutely, but that's not how they see it. Therein lies the rub.

 

[Beautiful Mulberry]

If the gun is purchased within the state one resides, then the federal gov’t has no authority as it is a state matter.

If the gun is shipped or transported between states, then the federal can have authority over the transaction.

They have zero authority over it. 2A reads as it is. Unless there is fine print that says they have the right to regulate?
When the government makes unjust laws explicitly towards the constitution it’s up to us citizens to stop it via talk, vote or violence.
This goes for anything that the government does. Example taxes. The only reason we pay so damn much is because we had citizens allow them to get away with it.

 

[TedKennedy]

Fine arguments for a courtroom, Reality is they'll interpret law, throw your ass in jail and you can stay there until they sort it out, or you decide seeing your wife and kids is more important than the stand you're making. Take a plea, they win, you pay.

That's only if they can find that "one bad apple" to enforce their wishes.