Colburn just released his denouncement of Manchin-Toomey Proposal
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Good. Thanks for the link!
We now wait for his proposal.
We now wait for his proposal.
Senator Coburn states
How exactly does this portal work to ensure a false ID is not being used? And how does it prevent straw sales? What safeguards are there to insure no record is kept of the check? Can we be sure that the NSA is not filing it all away somewhere along with every other record of internet use etc.?
It would have done nothing to prevent most mass shooting including Sandy Hook, so why do it?
How exactly does this portal work to ensure a false ID is not being used? And how does it prevent straw sales? What safeguards are there to insure no record is kept of the check? Can we be sure that the NSA is not filing it all away somewhere along with every other record of internet use etc.?
It would have done nothing to prevent most mass shooting including Sandy Hook, so why do it?
It just makes information the government already has available to the public. Why not do it?
I've been thinking that way too recently. Why can't I go into NICS with a name, a last 4, something, and see if an individual has a felony? I can do it in the State of Oklahoma with just a name (oscn, odcr) free of charge...why not at the federal level?
Make it open...less to hide. But then of course they'll come up with the "double secret probation" list that we still won't be able to see.
I don't, however, think that should be done as part of some background check mandate...I just think the system should be open and I should be able to use it free of charge if I choose...instead of paying a dealer to punch info into a computer to get the same info, or to call someone on the phone who will punch in the same info to tell me the same thing.
It creates an electronic "track." It is my understanding that the NSA stores all communications. While this raw stored data is not a gun registry I believe it could be searched to create one. Data mining is a very hot research area.
It would be useless data since a search doesn't equal a sale. Anyone could use it at any time and there is no way for them to know which searches resulted in sales and which didn't.
NICS sure, but NCIC is just a query-able system that already exists. Open it up. Let us all see what's in there.
Just thinking out loud. I know it's not a 100% solution, and it wouldn't be perfect. I've run people through OSCN/ODCR before (baby sitters, their family, even some people I've sold guns too). I would use NCIC if I could.
But we are off on a tangent...LOL
Did you see the story recently about the couple whose house was raided because they had purchased hydroponic gardening materials and supplies? The govt is is increasingly using data mining to try to detect crimes. I don't like the idea of giving them more data. Those who do not use the portal can be assumed to have much less chance of being gun owners. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid. They may already be able to identify most of us based on our internet activity.
I don't think it would be that big a deal. Obama would probably be the most searched person in the database. People would search their elected officials and celebrities. People would most likely end up using it for more than just firearm sales.
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