Constitutional Carry (SB 1212) on the OK House floor 4/23

[MCVetSteve]

Any news?

 

[CHenry]

So I hear one of the opponents of this bill is the OK Rifle Association.

 

[NikatKimber]

So I hear one of the opponents of this bill is the OK Rifle Association.

Someone posted a picture of their letter here. You heard correct that they oppose it.

 

[Perplexed]

Someone posted a picture of their letter here. You heard correct that they oppose it.

On what grounds?

 

[CHenry]

On what grounds?

Training concerns

 

[CHenry]

it changes the percent of votes needed from 2/3 to 3/4 to override the veto.

Yes we established that earlier. It's in the OK Constitution and Dave posted it.
Oh and 2/3 or 3/4 aren't percentages lol
Just sayin

 

[NightShade]

Training concerns

If they have concerns over the training they should look to states that have enacted unlicensed carry. I have heard of minimal issues and carried myself in Arizona before I was licensed.

I understand about wanting people to learn how to effectively use a weapon but requiring it is an infringement. The ones opposing the bill need to go hump a cactus and stay out of stuff.

 

[Perplexed]

Training concerns

The forest for the trees.

 

[Pokinfun]

That was my understanding as well. From the Oklahoma Constitution:

Article 5:

SECTION V-58

Time of taking effect of statutes - Emergency measures.

No act shall take effect until ninety days after the adjournment of the session at which it was passed, except enactments for carrying into effect provisions relating to the initiative and referendum, or a general appropriation bill, unless, in case of emergency, to be expressed in the act, the Legislature, by a vote of two-thirds of all members elected to each House, so directs. An emergency measure shall include only such measures as are immediately necessary for the preservation of the public peace, health, or safety, and shall not include the granting of franchises or license to a corporation or individual, to extend longer than one year, nor provision for the purchase or sale of real estate, nor the renting or encumbrance of real property for a longer term than one year. Emergency measures may be vetoed by the Governor, but such measures so vetoed may be passed by a three-fourths vote of each House, to be duly entered on the journal.
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Article 6:

SECTION VI-11

Approval or veto of bills - Passage over veto - Failure to return bill.

Every bill which shall have passed the Senate and House of Representatives, and every resolution requiring the assent of both branches of the Legislature, shall, before it becomes a law, be presented to the Governor; if he approve, he shall sign it; if not, he shall return it with his objections to the house in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the objections at large in the Journal and proceed to reconsider it. If, after such reconsideration, two-thirds of the members elected to that house shall agree to pass the bill or joint resolution, it shall be sent, together with the objections, to the other house, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered; and, if approved by two-thirds of the members elected to that house, it shall become a law, notwithstanding the objections of the Governor. In all such cases, the vote in both houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the members voting shall be entered on the Journal of each house respectively. If any bill or resolution shall not be returned by the Governor within five days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the Legislature shall, by their adjournment, prevent its return, in which case it shall not become a law without the approval of the Governor. No bill shall become a law after the final adjournment of the Legislature, unless approved by the Governor within fifteen days after such adjournment.

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I have noticed is the Emergency clause is a maneuver to kill a Bill when it is vetoed.

 

[MacFromOK]

Yes we established that earlier. It's in the OK Constitution and Dave posted it.
Oh and 2/3 or 3/4 aren't percentages lol
Just sayin

Yeah, but sayin' fraction of votes just sounds nerdy...