Constitutional carry

[Decoligny]

You guys don't know how lucky you are to live in Oklahoma and not some shithole like California.

Been in Oklahoma for two years now. Spent a total of 23 years living nostril deep in the cesspool known as the PRK (People's Republik of Kalifornistan).

I know how lucky I am brother.

 

[Decoligny]

Interesting question.

I haven't checked that explicitly. I did read the bill, and I don't remember seeing anything that mentioned "oklahoma residents only" so I would think it would apply to anyone legally allowed to own the gun in the first place.

Language in the law states "...by a person..." with no specification of state of residence. It does later in the bill make mention of aliens in the U.S. illegally being prohibited from possession of firearms, but that is the extent of the limitation based on where you are from.

 

[NikatKimber]

Language in the law states "...by a person..." with no specification of state of residence. It does later in the bill make mention of aliens in the U.S. illegally being prohibited from possession of firearms, but that is the extent of the limitation based on where you are from.

Thanks, I didn't think I remembered anything stating where the carrier residing made a difference in their eligibility to carry.

 

[Decoligny]

“21 O.S. 1289.6 adds the following language:
CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH FIREARMS MAY BE CARRIED
A. A person shall be permitted to carry loaded and unloaded shotguns, rifles and pistols, open and not concealed and without a handgun license as authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act pursuant to the following conditions:
...
6. As provided for in subsection A of Section 1272 of this title; or
7. For lawful self-defense and self-protection or any other legitimate purpose in or on property that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person; or
7. For any legitimate purpose not in violation of the Oklahoma Firearms Act of 1971 or any legislative enactment regarding the use, carrying, ownership and control of firearms.”

This is significant vs the old law.
You could transport a long gun in a motor vehicle only if loaded in the magazine but not chamber loaded.
You can thank OK2A for this one. We had a presentation at one of our monthly club meetings where the rep described how one could carry a long gun across the street to show your neighbor and be guilty of a misdemeanor, yet do the same with a loaded pistol and be in compliance with current laws.
Big news for our side.

The new law contains the following:
Except as otherwise provided by law, it shall be unlawful to transport a loaded rifle or shotgun in a landborne motor vehicle over a public highway or roadway unless the rifle of shotgun is transported clip- or magazine loaded, and not chamber-loaded, and in an exterior locked compartment of the vehicle or in the interior compartment of the vehicle.

 

[CHenry]

http://www.newson6.com/story/38109271/constitutional-carry-bill-goes-before-governor

One of the last parts of the story in the linked article:



Is this accurate?

Yes and no. It says we must have a permit to carry to other states but that other state may recognize our constitutional rights to carry in OK (should this bill go into law) in which case a state issue ID is now your gun permit. Different states operate differently and some will require your OK handgun permit, others wont.
As far as others traveling here, OK is a full reciprocity state.

 

[Decoligny]

Yes and no. It says we must have a permit to carry to other states but that other state may recognize our constitutional rights to carry in OK (should this bill go into law) in which case a state issue ID is now your gun permit. Different states operate differently and some will require your OK handgun permit, others wont.
As far as others traveling here, OK is a full reciprocity state.

The part that is 100% incorrect is the statement that it only applies to Oklahoma residents, and that out of state visitors must still have a license from their state of residence.

The bill uses the language "...any person..." with not a single mention of a requirement to be an Oklahoma resident in order to legally carry sans license.

 

[rawhide]

Pack it in, fellas - it's all over except the cryin'. The Legislature adjourned for the year last night and Mary now has the pocket veto available where the Legislature has no way to override. This whole battle starts over again next year with entirely different players.

I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly the legislature has two years to vote on an override. Not that it would happen that way but it is possible.

 

[rawhide]

Did a little quick reading, none of this is guaranteed to be 100% accurate, but it looks like the emergency status can also prevent veto in future sessions as well as preventing a referendum veto by the people.

 

[rlongnt]

http://www.oksenate.gov/legislation/glossary.html

Emergency Clause - a provision, requiring two-thirds approval by both houses, that allows a measure to become effective immediately upon the signature of the Governor or at a specified date. A law cannot become effective fewer than 90 days after sine die adjourn-ment without an emergency clause.

 

[NikatKimber]

http://www.oksenate.gov/legislation/glossary.html

Emergency Clause - a provision, requiring two-thirds approval by both houses, that allows a measure to become effective immediately upon the signature of the Governor or at a specified date. A law cannot become effective fewer than 90 days after sine die adjourn-ment without an emergency clause.

A previous poster noted that the bill specifies Nov. 1st. So not immediately.