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I believe that the human consciousness can be proven mathematically to be made of matter, not anything spiritual, through already performed relative velocity and gravitational time dilation experiments.

If it were spiritual it would be exempt from the laws of physics. This is not the case. If it were we would all be mentally trapped inside an eternal stillness, fully aware of our surroundings but unable to make the matter in our bodies move at the same rate as our consciousness is able to perceive the movement.

If one were to argue against this and say that humanity has a spiritual consciousness, it would not change the fact that the perceived movement of the consciousness can be slowed down or sped up relative to the space time conditions in which a humans brain exists. Thus, you would be arguing that there is a God, or a spiritual entity of any sorts, and that he can be imprisoned within extreme relative velocity space time and/or destroyed with the appropriate gravitational conditions.

Evolutionary debate is for amateurs. Biology, archaeology, geology.. bleh.. that's all settled and done with. Physics has all the real answers. You may have just read this and thought it a bunch of blabber, but if you take the time to understand the concepts the ramifications are pretty profound.

I understand that the laws of physics breaks down at the speed of light, therefore while physics can provide some answers, physics ain't the end all method of proving anything.

So no, physics doesn't hold THE answer, let alone any real answers.
 

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I believe that the human consciousness can be proven mathematically to be made of matter, not anything spiritual, through already performed relative velocity and gravitational time dilation experiments.

If it were spiritual it would be exempt from the laws of physics. This is not the case. If it were we would all be mentally trapped inside an eternal stillness, fully aware of our surroundings but unable to make the matter in our bodies move at the same rate as our consciousness is able to perceive the movement.

If one were to argue against this and say that humanity has a spiritual consciousness, it would not change the fact that the perceived movement of the consciousness can be slowed down or sped up relative to the space time conditions in which a humans brain exists. Thus, you would be arguing that there is a God, or a spiritual entity of any sorts, and that he can be imprisoned within extreme relative velocity space time and/or destroyed with the appropriate gravitational conditions.

Evolutionary debate is for amateurs. Biology, archaeology, geology.. bleh.. that's all settled and done with. Physics has all the real answers. You may have just read this and thought it a bunch of blabber, but if you take the time to understand the concepts the ramifications are pretty profound.


Good luck trying to teach anyone this way.
Focusing on the "answer" is a misguided debating approach... because Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Effectively communicate the evidence and the answer will be apparent by itself.

Clarify your reasoning and the evidence that it is built on
 

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I understand that the laws of physics breaks down at the speed of light, therefore while physics can provide some answers, physics ain't the end all method of proving anything.

So no, physics doesn't hold THE answer, let alone any real answers.
Science doesn't hold any "real" answers and never meant to. Science helps us DO stuff. Philosophy keeps Bogating the Big Truth, but science keeps doing stuff. Science does the stuff that lets the Platonists and Kantians contemplate the really real place where reality exists apart from our knowledge of reality, man.
 

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Clarify your reasoning and the evidence that it is built on

No.

If you are interested in gaining clarity I suggest you start here and then proceed to here

One does not simply clarify the reasoning behind statements involving time dilation to someone else any more than one would try to teach a dog to play the piano. Like any difficult to master skill or understanding one must have the willpower and aptitude to self educate.

It's not simple, and its not magic. It's science.
 

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No.

If you are interested in gaining clarity I suggest you start here and then proceed to here

One does not simply clarify the reasoning behind statements involving time dilation to someone else any more than one would try to teach a dog to play the piano. Like any difficult to master skill or understanding one must have the willpower and aptitude to self educate.

It's not simple, and its not magic. It's science.

So what you are arguing is that teachers do not have a place in society because everyone should be educating themselves?
IN essence then you should not be using previously published research to conduct novel research. You would have everyone who wants a wheelbarrow invent the wheel!
 

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