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http://www.news9.com/story/29059299/metro-couples-storm-shelter

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OKLAHOMA CITY - A metro couple's storm shelter turns into a crumpled mess, and they say the man who installed it needs to make it right.
“The sides were caving in. The roof was caving in,” Ernie Von Busch said. “This thing was smashing like a beer can.”

Now, the only thing in their backyard is fresh dirt after Ernie pulled out the shelter himself and filled in the hole.

“Well, I had to pull it out, because he called me and told me that he didn't have the machine anymore,” he said.

He used his own backhoe which he said probably wasn't the best idea, but the shelter was crumbling and taking in a lot of water.

“I got it out, and he decided not to bring the other one out,” Ernie said. “He picked up the old one and away he went.”

5/7/15 Related Story: Norman Woman's Storm Shelter Floated Above Ground After Severe Storm

The Von Busch's said they tried to contact the owner of Common Ground Storm Shelters so many times they lost count, and when that didn't work they contacted the Attorney General's Office. Keely dodged the AG's office, too. However, he did exchange several texts with Ernie and gave him his home address which News 9 used to track him down for an explanation.

“A metal shelter in the ground is not safe of any kind, and I know that's not what's being sold, and that's not what I was sold. The soil will exert so much pressure that over time any of them are capable of collapsing,” Keely said. “I am completely sorry, and we are going to make that right if it's the last thing that I do.”

Ernie and his wife are out several thousand dollars. The Attorney General's Office takes cases like this seriously and wants them to be reported.

The AG's office encourages consumers to check out potential storm shelter providers with the Better Business Bureau as well as make sure the provider installs shelters that meet FEMA guidelines.
 

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You'll never catch me in one of those steel coffins... Made my mind up looking at the shelters in Piedmont after their F5 left nothing but slabs and reinforced closets.
 

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Watching my neighbor getting a shelter installed in his garage floor...I wondered how those things didn't float out in heavy rain.

I know graves here in Oklahoma have vault liners to help hold down the casket. I know along the Gulf Coast they put cement slabs on top of the graves to keep them in the ground during storms.

But I just didn't see much in my neighbors shelter to anchor it down when water flows under it...
 

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They install the ones in garage floors in a hole larger than the shelter itself. There is concrete underneath it, on all sides and under the lip of the hole. If one ever floated it would have to have been installed another way. I put my fiberglass pool in 10 years ago when everyone I mentioned it to said it would surely float out. Heck, battleships float! What is stopping your house slab from floating away? The few stormshelter mishaps lately have been flukes. Poor installation, poor drainage or flooding accounted for all of them. I have no reason not to trust mine.

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I installed one in this house we are in, about 10 years ago. Not a hint of moisture ever.

If I were to ever do one outside the house in the yard, it would be a pour in place one, NOT a drop in one. There is a Storm Shelter outfit in the Shawnee "drawing a blank on the name" that builds them in the ground, no way they will float.

On the one I put in the garage, I poured concrete all around it, and made the side ways slant upwards and out. Granted in the garage under the house it does not get near the moisture as one sitting out in the yard. I also coated the one I put in with tar.
 
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It's like anything else - you get what you pay for, and you should use somebody that has a documented success rate, in your area, over a period of years. Not all in-garage shelters are the same - only use someone that has gone through the Texas Tech certification process, verify the steel specifications being used, the weatherproofing, the reinforcements used on the shelter, as well as the concrete that they use to backfill. Having been in all kinds of shelters, I personally prefer a quality, in-garage shelter. No weather elements to worry about, and being below ground is preferred to even a safe room IMO. YMMV
 

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Comments are always hilarious!

"Rontonya Buchanan · Driver at Dealers Auto Auction of Oklahoma City
Well it sound as if it was just placed in the not bond in with cement and where it was put there get a lot of water under ground take two hangs Streach out to see if the ground is wet the hangers will crops if water is the . If don't cross that's where you place storm shelter . Get real the hang trick has been around for years that how you find water when diging for a well."
 

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