Gun found at Moore school belongs to teacher’s relative

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Is that in § 1289 or § 1290?

I see the misdemeanor for elementary school concealed pistol carry in § 1290 but I haven't dug around further.


TITLE 21 § 1280.1 POSSESSION OF FIREARM ON SCHOOL PROPERTY
A. It shall be unlawful for any person to have in his or her possession on any public or private school property or while in any school bus or vehicle used by any school for transportation of students or teachers any firearm or weapon designated in Section 1272 of this title, except as provided in subsection C of this section or as otherwise authorized by law.
B. "School property" means any publicly or privately owned property held for purposes of elementary, secondary or vocational technical education, and shall not include property owned by public school districts or private educational entities where such property is leased or rented to an individual or corporation and used for purposes other than educational.
C. Firearms and weapons are allowed on school property and deemed not in violation of subsection A of this section as follows:
1. A gun or knife designed for hunting or fishing purposes kept in a privately owned vehicle and properly displayed or stored as required by law, or a handgun carried in a vehicle pursuant to a valid handgun license authorized by the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, provided such vehicle containing said gun or knife is driven onto school property only to transport a student to and from school and such vehicle does not remain unattended on school property;
2. A gun or knife used for the purposes of participating in the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation certified hunter training education course or any other hunting, fishing, safety or firearms training courses, or a recognized firearms sports event, team shooting program or competition, or living history reenactment, provided the course or event is approved by the principal or chief administrator of the school where the course or event is offered, and provided the weapon is properly displayed or stored as required by law pending participation in the course, event, program or competition; and
3. Weapons in the possession of any peace officer or other person authorized by law to possess a weapon in the performance of their duties and responsibilities.
D. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a felony. The fine for a violation of this section shall not exceed Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00). Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this section after having been issued a concealed handgun license pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall have the license permanently revoked and shall be liable for an administrative fine of One Hundred Dollars ($100.00) upon a hearing and determination by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation that the person is in violation of the provisions of this section.
 

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TITLE 21 § 1280.1 POSSESSION OF FIREARM ON SCHOOL PROPERTY
C. Firearms and weapons are allowed on school property and deemed not in violation of subsection A of this section as follows:
3. Weapons in the possession of any peace officer or other person authorized by law to possess a weapon in the performance of their duties and responsibilities.
D. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a felony. The fine for a violation of this section shall not exceed Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00). Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this section after having been issued a concealed handgun license pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall have the license permanently revoked and shall be liable for an administrative fine of One Hundred Dollars ($100.00) upon a hearing and determination by the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation that the person is in violation of the provisions of this section.

There we go, awesome.

I worked with this guy too. He started to shoot at a moving vehicle who drove through a gate at a federal facility here in the city. He was stopped after he drew his weapon and started to crank a round off at the car.

So what would happen to this guy, given he's a fit for § 1280.1 C:3 ?
 

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After reading the second article, I have even less sympathy for the guy. He forgot he had it in his pocket when he went to school, then didn't realize it fell out of his pocket while he was there. Unreal.

Jail time? Probably not, in my book. His permit is already expired, so it's not like they can pull it. Hefty fine, and a bar on getting a permit for a year or so.
 

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So what would happen to this guy, given he's a fit for § 1280.1 C:3 ?
We all worked as armed security at the FAA. OkTribalCop does both security and tribal police. The guy in the story stopped doing security probably around 2008ish. I doubt he kept his CE up and renewed his CLEET license. When he left our job, he went to a different line of work. If he did keep it, I still don't think it would help for 1280.1 C:3.
 

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We all worked as armed security at the FAA. OkTribalCop does both security and tribal police. The guy in the story stopped doing security probably around 2008ish. I doubt he kept his CE up and renewed his CLEET license. When he left our job, he went to a different line of work. If he did keep it, I still don't think it would help for 1280.1 C:3.

Assuming a valid license, that's a good question for good lawyers, if we have any around. It's odd that the police mention his expired CCW but not his CLEET AS.

The guy needs to be disciplined, but I feel that 366 days in jail is just a bit too far. I'm not sure what I would recommend if it were up to me. Probably stocks or a pillory.
 

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So true - does it really make people feel better to jump all over a guy who makes a stupid mistake? No malice was involved here. The only reason its an issue is the general public fear of anything that looks like a gun.

He didn't make a mistake, he made a series of concious decisions that aren't consistent with the mantra we all like to chant to ourselves...that most gun owners are conscientious and law abiding.

1)He left a gun in his pocket when he left his home, without a valid permit to carry.
2)He drove to a school
3)He went into a school
4)He carried in such a fashion that his gun was able to fall out of his pocket onto a chair.

The reason this is an issue is because one individual acted irresponsibly. He deserves every lump that's coming....including those from his peers. We have to be our own harshest critics.
 
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He didn't make a mistake, he made a series of concious decisions that aren't consistent with the mantra we all like to chant to ourselves...that most gun owners are conscientious and law abiding.

1)He left a gun in his pocket when he left his home, without a valid permit to carry.
2)He drove to a school
3)He went into a school
4)He carried in such a fashion that his gun was able to fall out of his pocket onto a chair.

The reason this is an issue is because one individual acted irresponsibly. He deserves every lump that's coming....including those from his peers. We have to be our own harshest critics.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I'm sick of our society's insistence upon calling bad choices "mistakes" - there is a considerable difference between the two. Now we all look a little dumber because of his poor decisions...
 

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