Yes, because it is illegal to be in possession of Federal Reserve Notes without proof of how you obtained them.
Holder limits seized-asset sharing process that split billions w/ local, state police
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Yes, because it is illegal to be in possession of Federal Reserve Notes without proof of how you obtained them.
Right?
It only took him 6 years to figure out this is a bad program...
And right before he hands the justice department over to a new AG too....
I bet this lasts just until Loretta Lynch is confirmed and then it is business as usual.
And right before he hands the justice department over to a new AG too....
I bet this lasts just until Loretta Lynch is confirmed and then it is business as usual.
mmm,hmm.... Just what I thought.
When Long Island businessman Jeff Hirsch stepped up to the bank window to make a deposit one morning in May, 2012, the teller shot him a worried look. You know, your account has been frozen, she told Hirsch. Im not sure you want to put any money in there this morning.
In fact, the disbelieving Hirsch soon learned, the office of the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York had, without warning, seized the entire working capital $447,000 of Bi-County Distributors in Ronkonkoma, N.Y., the business Hirsch co-owns with his two brothers.
For Hirsch, it was one of those petrifying moments that could only elicit an incredulous, This cant be true!
But it was true. Hirsch and his brothers, like thousands of other Americans in the past 10 years, had been targeted by law enforcement authorities on suspicion of a crime he had never heard of. His money had been seized as part of a federally sanctioned wave of civil asset forfeitures, with citizens losing homes and automobiles and life savings merely because they were suspected of some crime.
The subject is likely to come up at U.S. Senate hearings this week to review President Obamas nomination of Loretta Lynch to replace Eric Holder as U.S. Attorney General, staff of the Senate Judiciary Committee say. It was Lynchs office that inflicted the nightmare of disappearing funds on the Hirsches and refused to release the money even after overwhelming evidence that the brothers were innocent of wrongdoing.
Since 2008, police agencies have seized cash and property worth $3 billion, making more than 55,000 seizures, according to the Washington Post. Lynchs office hauled in $113 million in civil forfeiture actions from 123 cases between 2011 and 2013, and a Wall Street Journal editorial described her office as a major forfeiture operation.
Last week, Lynchs office finally gave the brothers their money back, two years and nine months after it had been seized and exactly a week before Lynch was scheduled to be grilled by members of the Judiciary Committee.
By now, the asset-forfeiture horror stories have begun to alarm not only ordinary citizens but members of Congress and high-ranking federal officials. Holder himself stepped into the controversy last week, issuing a sweeping order to stop local and state police from seizing private property without warrant or criminal charges.
Holders announcement was a significant move away from the predatory property seizures that have been the subject numerous recent investigative stories. But Holder is on his way out, leaving administration of the new policy in the hands of his successor, likely to be one of the enforcers of the tainted grab-and-keep system, Loretta Lynch.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/loretta-lynch-civil-forfeiture-hirsch/
Judge OKs cops decision to seize Letroy Guions cash, truck
February 23, 2015
letroyguion
A judge has ruled that there is probable cause for police in Starke, Florida, to seize $190,028.21 in cash from Packers defensive tackle Letroy Guion, and to seize the new truck Guion was carrying the cash in.
According to First Coast News, the judge wrote in a decision that Guion was traveling in a known drug area and that Guion carrying such a large amount of money itself is strong evidence that currency was intended to be furnished in return for drugs.
It may be true that most people carrying that kind of cash on them are involved in nefarious activities, but Guion is not like most people. Guion has a job that legitimately pays him $1 million a year. And Guion reportedly has proof via bank statements that the money comes from cashing his Packers paychecks. If Guion is cashing his paychecks and carrying thousands of $100 bills around with him, that makes him foolish with his money, but it doesnt make him a criminal. And concerns about police abusing civil asset forfeiture laws are real.
Guion has 20 days to respond to the judges ruling. In the mean time, police will hold onto his cash and truck. He is facing charges of felony possession of marijuana and felony possession of a firearm in connection with the arrest early this month.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-decision-to-seize-letroy-guions-cash-truck/
February 23, 2015
letroyguion
A judge has ruled that there is probable cause for police in Starke, Florida, to seize $190,028.21 in cash from Packers defensive tackle Letroy Guion, and to seize the new truck Guion was carrying the cash in.
According to First Coast News, the judge wrote in a decision that Guion was traveling in a known drug area and that Guion carrying such a large amount of money itself is strong evidence that currency was intended to be furnished in return for drugs.
It may be true that most people carrying that kind of cash on them are involved in nefarious activities, but Guion is not like most people. Guion has a job that legitimately pays him $1 million a year. And Guion reportedly has proof via bank statements that the money comes from cashing his Packers paychecks. If Guion is cashing his paychecks and carrying thousands of $100 bills around with him, that makes him foolish with his money, but it doesnt make him a criminal. And concerns about police abusing civil asset forfeiture laws are real.
Guion has 20 days to respond to the judges ruling. In the mean time, police will hold onto his cash and truck. He is facing charges of felony possession of marijuana and felony possession of a firearm in connection with the arrest early this month.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-decision-to-seize-letroy-guions-cash-truck/
Drugs and illegally carried firearm? Guion isn't a good example for why these seizures are wrong...
let's say he had pot which is now legal is three states and had a legal firearm which most of this forum supports.
are you saying those offenses raise to the point of seizing a man's legally gotten earnings?
the fact that Guion is a pro ball player will now give massive publicity to this unjust practice of seizing assets with one of the lowest bars anywhere in America's legal system. all LEO has to do is "suspect" illegal activity is possibly occurring and/or getting ready to occur, most times without getting charged and grossly disproportional to alleged crimes committed.
sure carrying $190k in cash is stupid, on top of driving a new pickup in a high crime area ... but how does that in any way justify seizure of those legally earned assets?
articles about Guion are scattered in sports news but strangely has not hit the front pages of general news. but due to Guion pro ball status .. I hope this story goes viral ...
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Well, he was convicted in a court of, oh, wait a minute.
nevermind.
nevermind.
