Household Electrical Problem

[reddog1]

Ok, so the outlet outside that powers the pool pump has died, I mean, the wires going TO the back of the outlet have no juice comming to them,

There is nothing else on the circut, and the breaker is not tripped, any suggestions?

Thanks in advance peeps!

Patrick

 

[Okiedog]

Bad breaker? If breaker is good, disconnect hot wire and short it and the neutral wire together. Check for continuity at pump. Wires may have burned opened (possibly). Or may have opened in a junction box.

 

[tyromeo55]

Is is fed from a panel outside or inside? is it ran in pipe or direct buried? did you check and see if there is power actually coming out of the breaker? are you sure all the wires are open and not just one? If you lost a neutral and the hot leg is live it can still shock you.

If you are absolutely sure that it is a dedicated circuit and the breaker is good then my first guess would be a burnt wire in the ground a bad joint somewhere.

 

[reddog1]

All power is comming out ok at the panel.

On the back of the outlet, If I test the hot and neutral... nothing, however, if I test the hot and the bare ground... 124 v

its just an outside outlet on the side of the house.

Why would the neutral not read? A break in the circuit? All breakers read 124 v thats one lead on the neutral bus, and the hot lead testing every sinle breaker.

Im con foosed!!

Now the bad outlet is a GFCI outlet. But still the wires going to the back of the GFCI should read right?

 

[reddog1]

Is is fed from a panel outside or inside? is it ran in pipe or direct buried? did you check and see if there is power actually coming out of the breaker? are you sure all the wires are open and not just one? If you lost a neutral and the hot leg is live it can still shock you.

If you are absolutely sure that it is a dedicated circuit and the breaker is good then my first guess would be a burnt wire in the ground a bad joint somewhere.

Panel inside, wire ran thru attic, down thru wall, all breakers sending power

 

[nobuttbrian]

Bad gfci

 

[tyromeo55]

is there a receptacle DIRECTLY on the other side (inside wall) ?

 

[reddog1]

is there a receptacle DIRECTLY on the other side (inside wall) ?

Yep and it works..

Yeah the GFCI is bad, But wouldnt the 2 wires going into the GFCI still read?

 

[tyromeo55]

Yep and it works..

Yeah the GFCI is bad, But wouldnt the 2 wires going into the GFCI still read?

Open it up and see if it is fed from there. Chances are it does and has the joints in it for your open neutral. PM me with your number and Ill call ya if you want to BS about it

 

[nobuttbrian]

Yep and it works..

Yeah the GFCI is bad, But wouldnt the 2 wires going into the GFCI still read?

They won't while still connected to gfci. To test them take wires out of gfci outlet. There's something in those that keeps them from a true read that why when you check the hot wire to ground you get a reading I had the exact same thing this summer with mine for our pool. Replaced outlet and all is well. If the gfci trips alot they go bad quick.