Jordanian pilot burned alive

[Permanent37]

Was the pilot bombing them?

He was on a bombing run, I sure hope he took some of them out for us.


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[SoonerP226]

It just seems weird that we failed, then succeeded, then promptly forgot what we learned and have relied on even worse iterations ever since.

Reinventing the wheel is America's real national pastime. We've been doing it pretty much since the English landed at Jamestown.

 

[Dave70968]

That sounds suspiciously like "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" to me.

Where do I contribute?

 

[CHenry]

That sounds suspiciously like "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" to me.

Where do I contribute?

Your avatar is so Fing creepy...please.

 

[uncle money bags]

That sounds suspiciously like "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" to me.

Where do I contribute?

paypal to [email protected].

 

[dennishoddy]

Don't forget the events that led up to our involvement prior to December 1941. I'd agree that something very similar is happening.

Here are the events leading up to WWII that caused us to get in. BTW that decision led to Perl Harbor. (from wiki)

Non-interventionism shortly before World War II[edit]

As Europe moved closer to war in the late 1930s, the United States Congress continued to demand American neutrality. Between 1936 and 1937, much to the dismay of President Roosevelt, Congress passed the Neutrality Acts. For example, in the final Neutrality Act, Americans could not sail on ships flying the flag of a belligerent nation or trade arms with warring nations. Such activities had played a role in American entrance into World War I.

On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland; Britain and France subsequently declared war on Germany, marking the start of World War II. In an address to the American People two days later, President Roosevelt assured the nation that he would do all he could to keep them out of war.[9] However, his words showed his true goals. "When peace has been broken anywhere, the peace of all countries everywhere is in danger," Roosevelt said.[9] Even though he was intent on neutrality as the official policy of the United States, he still echoed the dangers of staying out of this war. He also cautioned the American people to not let their wish to avoid war at all costs supersede the security of the nation.[9]

The war in Europe split the American people into two camps: non-interventionists and interventionists. The two sides argued over America’s involvement in this Second World War. The basic principle of the interventionist argument was fear of German invasion. By the summer of 1940, France suffered a stunning defeat by Germans, and Britain was the only democratic enemy of Germany.[10][11] In a 1940 speech, Roosevelt argued, "Some, indeed, still hold to the now somewhat obvious delusion that we … can safely permit the United States to become a lone island … in a world dominated by the philosophy of force."[12] A national survey found that in the summer of 1940, 67% of Americans believed that a German-Italian victory would endanger the United States, that if such an event occurred 88% supported "arm[ing] to the teeth at any expense to be prepared for any trouble", and that 71% favored "the immediate adoption of compulsory military training for all young men".[13]

Ultimately, the ideological rift between the ideals of the United States and the goals of the fascist powers empowered the interventionist argument. Writer Archibald MacLeish asked, "How could we sit back as spectators of a war against ourselves?"[14] In an address to the American people on December 29, 1940, President Roosevelt said, "the Axis not merely admits but proclaims that there can be no ultimate peace between their philosophy of government and our philosophy of government."[15]

However, there were still many who held on to non-interventionism. Although a minority, they were well organized, and had a powerful presence in Congress.[16] Pro-German or anti-British opinion contributed to isolationism. Roosevelt's national share of the 1940 presidential vote declined by seven percentage points from 1936. Of the 20 counties in which his share declined by 35 points or more, 19 were largely German-speaking. Of the 35 counties in which his share declined by 25 to 34 points, German was the largest or second-largest original nationality in 31.[17] Non-interventionists rooted a significant portion of their arguments in historical precedent, citing events such as Washington's farewell address and the failure of World War I.[16] "If we have strong defenses and understand and believe in what we are defending, we need fear nobody in this world," Robert Maynard Hutchins, President of the University of Chicago, wrote in a 1940 essay.[18] Isolationists believed that our safety as a nation was more important than any foreign war.[19] The interesting thing is that the arguments the non-interventionists used in 1940 echoed the themes of Washington and Jefferson.[original research?] Charles Lindbergh's words in a 1940 speech, "those of us who believe in an independent American destiny must … organize for strength,"[20] are not that different from Washington's pleas for international isolation.[citation needed]

As 1940 became 1941, the actions of the Roosevelt administration made it more and more clear that the United States was on a course to war. This policy shift, driven by the President, came in two phases. The first came in 1939 with the passage of the Fourth Neutrality Act, which permitted the United States to trade arms with belligerent nations, as long as these nations came to America to retrieve the arms, and pay for them in cash.[16] This policy was quickly dubbed, 'Cash and Carry.'[21] The second phase was the Lend-Lease Act of early 1941. This act allowed the President "to lend, lease, sell, or barter arms, ammunition, food, or any 'defense article' or any 'defense information' to 'the government of any country whose defense the President deems vital to the defense of the United States.'"[22] American public opinion supported Roosevelt's actions. As United States involvement in the Battle of the Atlantic grew with incidents such as the sinking of the USS Reuben James (DD-245), by late 1941 72% of Americans agreed that "the biggest job facing this country today is to help defeat the Nazi Government", and 70% thought that defeating Germany was more important than staying out of the war.[23] Isolationist families' sons fought in the war as much as others.[17]

 

[TedKennedy]

Very educational. And I always thought the Japanese attacked us because we threatened their oil supply.
Interesting how many of those now-famous warplanes were being designed and built prior to 1939, if a guy didn't know better, he'd think we were at war before Pearl Harbor.
Well, Stalin got a heckuva deal, anyways.

 

[CHenry]

Well I guess we'll be goin in...

http://www.bloombergview.com/articl...te-war-authorization-limits-u-s-ground-forces