The owners' manuals on compounds are usually woefully inadequate on this subject.
What I would like to know, and have posted here in this thread, *if you happen to know for your particular bow*, the following: How many full turns from tight can you loosen, that you know for positive, for certain, and still be completely safe from the bow "unhinging", that you learned *either* through trial/observation, or from your owner's manual. E.g. "I know that on brand X, model Y, you can go at *least* Z full turns, because I've done it.", etc.
The *standard* conventional wisdom is 4.5 turns and be safe. But I want to know what brands and makes of bows have variations in them. I'm sure there are some variations at least.
I just got a used Hoyt bow from a member on this site, and it's a 60-70, but I need and want to turn it as far out as I can possibly safely go, to get it to the 60 or lower range. Can I go 5? 5.5? What?
Also, other miscellaneous questions on this subject (which drives me mad with lack of good info):
1. It is the case, or is it not the case, that you can state "ALL bow models" of any particular brand/make have the same answer, such as something like: "ALL Hoyts can go at least 4.5 turns, but Matthews vary by model", or whatever.
2. Which bows brands/models will actually literally unhinge and pop you in the mouth if you just keep on loosening?
3. Are there any makes/models which will NOT do this - i.e. they have a failsafe "stopper" mechanism to keep them from going "CF" on you ? CF which stand for catastrophic failure, of course.
4. If so, which models do and which don't?
5. If none or just a few have such a failsafe mechanism, then why in the $@%##@$#$%, #$$%^%^#$$@, #$%@#$#@$% do they NOT have such an obvious, simple, needed mechanism??????!!!!!????? It would take, what, 1.5 cents of additional machining on the bolts to chisel/flay/widen them at the bottom, to keep them from going CF? If they just did that, then it would be realy simple - just stop loosening when you feel resistance. Go back maybe 1/8th turn to ensure full engagement along the length of the threading, and you're golden!
Maybe I'm misunderstanding here - maybe they all DO have stops on the bolts, and you can loosen any of them until you feel that resistance.
Thank you for your time and listening to my rant.
List your Year, Make, & Model of bow, then list Unknown, or if you know, the number of full turns you have gone and shot the bow in that state (or what your owner's manual states).
What I would like to know, and have posted here in this thread, *if you happen to know for your particular bow*, the following: How many full turns from tight can you loosen, that you know for positive, for certain, and still be completely safe from the bow "unhinging", that you learned *either* through trial/observation, or from your owner's manual. E.g. "I know that on brand X, model Y, you can go at *least* Z full turns, because I've done it.", etc.
The *standard* conventional wisdom is 4.5 turns and be safe. But I want to know what brands and makes of bows have variations in them. I'm sure there are some variations at least.
I just got a used Hoyt bow from a member on this site, and it's a 60-70, but I need and want to turn it as far out as I can possibly safely go, to get it to the 60 or lower range. Can I go 5? 5.5? What?
Also, other miscellaneous questions on this subject (which drives me mad with lack of good info):
1. It is the case, or is it not the case, that you can state "ALL bow models" of any particular brand/make have the same answer, such as something like: "ALL Hoyts can go at least 4.5 turns, but Matthews vary by model", or whatever.
2. Which bows brands/models will actually literally unhinge and pop you in the mouth if you just keep on loosening?
3. Are there any makes/models which will NOT do this - i.e. they have a failsafe "stopper" mechanism to keep them from going "CF" on you ? CF which stand for catastrophic failure, of course.
4. If so, which models do and which don't?
5. If none or just a few have such a failsafe mechanism, then why in the $@%##@$#$%, #$$%^%^#$$@, #$%@#$#@$% do they NOT have such an obvious, simple, needed mechanism??????!!!!!????? It would take, what, 1.5 cents of additional machining on the bolts to chisel/flay/widen them at the bottom, to keep them from going CF? If they just did that, then it would be realy simple - just stop loosening when you feel resistance. Go back maybe 1/8th turn to ensure full engagement along the length of the threading, and you're golden!
Maybe I'm misunderstanding here - maybe they all DO have stops on the bolts, and you can loosen any of them until you feel that resistance.
Thank you for your time and listening to my rant.
List your Year, Make, & Model of bow, then list Unknown, or if you know, the number of full turns you have gone and shot the bow in that state (or what your owner's manual states).