Michael Hastings will not be down for breakfast... Guy that brought down Mchrystal

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As an expert in automotive mechanics, I can attest that this type of thing simply does not happen, especially in a brand new Merc. Engines just don't fly out of cars, much less skid 100 feet. Cars are specifically designed to keep that from happening in collisions. I have looked at the tree, it is damaged, but the damage is consistent with an impact and a fire, not the type of impact that would catapult an engine. 150mph crashes don't launch engines. I think there was a bomb in the car. I really do.


seriously, how does an engine and transmission fly forward 100ft in a head on collision with a large tree?
 

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seriously, how does an engine and transmission fly forward 100ft in a head on collision with a large tree?

It can't. It is not possible. The forward momentum would have been transferred to the tree. Note how the hood is wrapped around the tree upside down. The engine would have hit the tree and been pushed backwards. You don't just rip motor mounts like that. It takes an incredible force to tear motor mounts, it is their job to keep the engine in the car. An impact can tear mounts, but it will absorb so much of the force, there would not be enough to continue through the front sheet metal and continue to skid 100 feet. A fuel explosion would not have ejected the engine either, as the tank pops in the rear of the car, not at the engine, and tank rupture, they don't have the force to propel a 1000-pound drivetrain 100 feet. Not even if it was bolted directly to the tank. There were munitions involved in my opinion. The engine would have to have been unbolted in order for this to have occurred. Mercedes are some of the safest cars on the road, this is not possible.

The only stories I have found of engines coming out in wrecks were all rollovers. I can see it in the instance, but a simple head-on collision? doubtful.
 

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Also, if you read that story, they are trying to REALLY slam the guy. Quoting that he was in a drunk driving wreck in college, that admitted he smoked crack once, etc. I'm not saying that crack is good, but journalists do a lot of things to get a story. I don't know the context of the crack thing. Regardless, they are trying to smear the guy.
 

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Just tyrant obozo's minions making sure nobody attempts to tell the truth about his corrupt lying Chicago arse. Seriously seems super unlikely to me that in a head on collision with a tree that the motor and tranny would fly forward bomb yes smacking a tree at high speed not at all. NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG.
 

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You don't just rip motor mounts like that. It takes an incredible force to tear motor mounts, it is their job to keep the engine in the car.

In some modern car designs (Mercedes being one, along with Peugeot/Citroen and Renault), the engine is designed to drop in a collision to prevent it from being pushed up into the cabin as the crush zones are compromised.

But yea this is still dubious. You would have have really hard offset impact though to sheer the mounts and launch the engine forward that far while being not directly in front of the tree. Sounds really fishy. As an insurance adjuster handling exclusively total loss salvage, I see dozens of totals a day. Never seen anything like this.
 
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In some modern car designs (Mercedes being one, along with Peugeot/Citroen and Renault), the engine is designed to drop in a collision to prevent it from being pushed up into the cabin as the crush zones are compromised.

But yea this is still dubious. You would have have really hard offset impact though to sheer the mounts and launch the engine forward that far while being not directly in front of the tree. Sounds really fishy. As an insurance adjuster handling exclusively total loss salvage, I see dozens of totals a day. Never seen anything like this.

That was the case in a car wreck that I had in college. I was going about 50 mph when I swerved to avoid an accident and took my car under an 18 wheel trailer. The engine didn't come into the cabin of the car, but instead started to crumple under the car. But even at 50 it didn't go very far, hard to believe it left the car and went over 100ft.
 

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