Off topic - but where have you been? Good to see you post.
Something for nothing. Take this drug, you don't have to exercise more (or at all) you can keep eating as much as you like...
Anything in life that is worth while one has to work for. A good family, children and grandkids that love you. A comfortable retirement or beautiful home or land. It depends on what you value most.
So, take ozempic, lose weight, you may not get diabetes but you may get horrible digestive issues or pancreatitus or other issues which kill you a few years later.
BTW, digitalis may help you with heart problems, extending your life, however in general it is a poison. This is the issue with off label use of medicines.
Conversely, viagra. They are discovering it may help with prostate issues, altzheimers, dementia, blood pressure and even covid. Problem is it is now available generically... this is why you will always see new meds for old problems, the patent expires and pharmaceutical companies cannot make as much profit.
I am pro capitalism, I am not in favor of the modern brand of capitalism involving the government.
Anything in life that is worth while one has to work for. A good family, children and grandkids that love you. A comfortable retirement or beautiful home or land. It depends on what you value most.
So, take ozempic, lose weight, you may not get diabetes but you may get horrible digestive issues or pancreatitus or other issues which kill you a few years later.
BTW, digitalis may help you with heart problems, extending your life, however in general it is a poison. This is the issue with off label use of medicines.
Conversely, viagra. They are discovering it may help with prostate issues, altzheimers, dementia, blood pressure and even covid. Problem is it is now available generically... this is why you will always see new meds for old problems, the patent expires and pharmaceutical companies cannot make as much profit.
I am pro capitalism, I am not in favor of the modern brand of capitalism involving the government.
^^^A couple of old news stories from the UK come to mind (don't have a link but going from memory).
A nurse in England caught the covid bad and before going into ICU she signed a document agreeing to try experimental drugs for covid. They gave her the little blue pill (which was originally invented to improve circulation, I think) and when she came out of coma they told her it had saved her life.
A story at least several years ago from the BBC said cancer researchers (in Kansas, maybe ?) were trying to find some grant money to research giving women vitamin C while they were undergoing cancer treatment. Story said they were having trouble raising money because Vit C isn't patented or anything so no profit in giving it to a patient.
The best drug for weight loss is exercise. Imagine how much wealth it would generate if the lazy drug-obsessed and drug-addicted American public could take exercise in pill form. Oh wait, they do make that. It’s called meth. Just legalize meth. No more fatties.
Fen-Phen was a win for the suspect lawn firms and doctors who raked in the money filing false claims. The drug combo caused harm, but not nearly like the public was lead to believe.
“But that’s not justice, which is why the fen-phen litigation will long be remembered as a mass tort debacle. Consider the findings of a 2004 audit conducted by a panel of cardiologists led by Dr. Joseph Kisslo of Duke University in the fen-phen class action. Hired by class counsel to review 926 claims that had already passed the trust audit process, Kisslo and his colleagues spent hours analyzing echocardiograms. About 70 percent of them, Kisslo’s group concluded, should not have been approved by auditors.
“We found serious, repeated, and verifiable alterations of systems controls to consistently exaggerate [the seriousness of disease],” Kisslo swore in an affidavit. Even worse than manipulation of the echocardiograph machines, the Kisslo team found rogue frames inserted into the echos of 84 patients. All of the inserted frames had the effect of exaggerating the patients’ heart damage. “I cannot conceive of any legitimate reason to use such a practice clinically,” Kisslo stated. “These rogue inserts are unacceptable physiologically, scientifically, clinically, and otherwise.”
Most disturbing was the effect of the apparent deception on real victims. Kisslo’s panel found that in 50 cases claiming mitral valve damage, the patients had actually suffered moderate or severe aortic valve damage that had gone undiagnosed. And in one horrifying case, a patient whose condition was overstated for the sake of obtaining payment through the trust ended up having unnecessary heart valve replacement surgery.
Class counsel Fishbein says the ultimate lesson of the fen-phen litigation may be the peril of attempting such a grand-scale class action settlement. A standard of proof low enough to produce efficiency, coupled with compensation high enough to keep plaintiffs in the class, seems to create “a huge incentive to push [dubious] claims,” Fishbein says. “I wouldn’t think a defendant would want to do it.” Building safeguards and audits into the system, Fishbein says, removes the efficiency that makes the class action economically attractive for defendants. “The class mechanism becomes less effective than the tort system,” he says.
As pharmaceutical mass torts involving Vioxx and Celebrex ripen, Merck & Co., Inc., and Pfizer Inc. would do well to remember Fishbein’s hard-earned wisdom. That, and the story of the patient who underwent unnecessary heart surgery. Justice demands a different approach.”
https://www.law.com/americanlawyer/almID/1109128224002/
Tell me you don’t understand weight loss… Or the human metabolism at all.
Exercise is a healthy activity for many reasons, even moderate amounts of exercise are beneficial. Exercise isn’t the best drug for weight loss. You cannot out exercise a fork. Exercise burns very few calories compared to the calories your metabolism requires to keep you alive on a daily basis. Ignore the calories burned on your smart watch or fitness tracker because you didn’t burn that many calories during that last workout.
The best way to lose weight is through eating fewer calories per day than your metabolism needs to carry out all its various functions. You have almost zero control over your metabolism for the most part and it’s not an engine that can be revved up. Increasing lean muscle mass will raise the number of calories your metabolism requires on a daily basis by some small amount. And overweight and obese people don’t have slower metabolisms than thinner people, they have higher metabolic rates and burn more calories per day.
GLP1 drugs are a version of a hormone that our bodies produce in the gut. For some people they offer an effective way to lose weight and maintain an healthy weight. They shouldn’t be used to lose weight and then be completely stopped, this will result in regaining weight. Similar to way a person takes medication to control blood pressure, once the blood pressure is well controlled, they don’t discontinue taking the medicine. And like any drug GLP1(s) can be misused, but that shouldn’t stop people from having access to medicine that can benefit from them.
Exercise is a healthy activity for many reasons, even moderate amounts of exercise are beneficial. Exercise isn’t the best drug for weight loss. You cannot out exercise a fork. Exercise burns very few calories compared to the calories your metabolism requires to keep you alive on a daily basis. Ignore the calories burned on your smart watch or fitness tracker because you didn’t burn that many calories during that last workout.
The best way to lose weight is through eating fewer calories per day than your metabolism needs to carry out all its various functions. You have almost zero control over your metabolism for the most part and it’s not an engine that can be revved up. Increasing lean muscle mass will raise the number of calories your metabolism requires on a daily basis by some small amount. And overweight and obese people don’t have slower metabolisms than thinner people, they have higher metabolic rates and burn more calories per day.
GLP1 drugs are a version of a hormone that our bodies produce in the gut. For some people they offer an effective way to lose weight and maintain an healthy weight. They shouldn’t be used to lose weight and then be completely stopped, this will result in regaining weight. Similar to way a person takes medication to control blood pressure, once the blood pressure is well controlled, they don’t discontinue taking the medicine. And like any drug GLP1(s) can be misused, but that shouldn’t stop people from having access to medicine that can benefit from them.
I do believe there are those who have difficulty with their metabolism. I do not think they are in great numbers as much as the obesity rate suggests. I think the greatest objection I have is overprescription of meds. An assumption is made quickly, everyone should be on the latest new drug. Diet is in some ways the hardest thing to control, one needs food to survive! The type of food matters, and you would be surprised at the package labels and the ridiculous amount of additives that has been making its way to your plate.
Good example, I got up to 195 lbs, decided to do do Keto ( did it in the 90's and dropped weight fast) in the 90s I drank diet soft drinks alot. Now if I drink 1 diet soda per day, I cannot get into ketosis. Could it be my metabolism? Possibly, I personally think the additives are making the difference.
Why are you in the tanning salon???
Yall leave us fat kids alone!!!
I think that's the objection, a lifetime of doctor prescribed meds versus independence from a lifetime of meds (possibly with bad side effects), or independence from doctors in general due to bad health!
If one is "overweight" and happy, that is their business.
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