Mossberg 500 vs Remington 870

[Sanjuro82]

The older Remington Wingmasters are best pump shotguns every made. Mid 50s - Early 80s. Incredible weapons! They have stood the test of time, were built by craftsman, used high quality parts (Forged steel, no MIM), etc.... No pump shotgun currently made can touch them, or even get close for that matter.


Comparing the newly manufacturer models that I have used, I'd rank them like this:

1. Mossberg 590A1
2. Remington Wingmaster
3. Norinco (IAC 982 Hawk/ H&R Pardner)
4. Remington Express
5. Mossberg 500
6. Benelli Nova/Super Nova
7. Maverick 88

I've heard good thing about the Rock Island Pumps, but I don't have much experience with them. I've heard both good and bad thing on the Turkish pumps.

 

[MoBoost]

1. Mossberg 590A1
...
5. Mossberg 500

You must be really hard on that safety button

 

[Sanjuro82]

The 500s have always felt somewhat cheap to me. Too light weight, they rattle like crazy, and I don't like plastic on shotguns! The 590a1s on the other hand are rock solid, and I actually prefer the added weight! The fit and finish is night and day between the two. The thicker barrel, bayonet lug, parkerized finish, and lack of plastic are all worth the price for the upgrade. There are also a few key mechanical upgrade on 590a1s.

 

[MoBoost]

There are also a few key mechanical upgrade on 590a1s.

Please elaborate.


P.S. My 500ATP doesn't have a lick of plastic.

 

[aeropb]

I'll take the 870 as it is faster to switch ammo types. Mossberg's design suffers when you're loaded with buck and need to get a slug into the chamber asap

 

[Sanjuro82]

Please elaborate.


P.S. My 500ATP doesn't have a lick of plastic.

Neither does my 500AB. The 590a1s have an improved and stronger barrel ring lug, beefier extractors, and they have a stronger action bar to bolt connection. I believe there are a number of other parts/components that the military specified to be beefed up, but I don't know what they all are.

 

[MoBoost]

I'll take the 870 as it is faster to switch ammo types. Mossberg's design suffers when you're loaded with buck and need to get a slug into the chamber asap

Put the slug in the mag - rack it in - what's the problem? Or did you just top off with wrong ammo on purpose?

 

[okie362]

Mine is bigger than yours and I don't care which one you have....Don't point it at me!!

 

[aeropb]

Put the slug in the mag - rack it in - what's the problem? Or did you just top off with wrong ammo on purpose?

You have to think outside of the box