Mr. Peanut is dead.

[turkeyrun]

Was Jimmy Carter's heart in the right place? I am not sure to this day. Only good I think he has done has been Habitat for Humanity, and I think that is a stretch. Why do we have a nuclear waste problem and few nuclear power plants... Jimmy Carter, signed into law the legislation which ended nuclear waste recycling, which is one if not the best way to deal with it in many ways. He stunted nuclear power, partially due to Three Mile Island. An unimpressive president, but biden and obama were way worse. Why was obama worse? He destroyed 40 years of improving race relations and the economy got worse on purpose, he new what he was doing. Carter was simply out of his depth.

Yep, I was young and dumb, YET knew Mr Peanut was a bad choice. A new Father and struggling to buy z house; 12% interest and balloon payments. A year later, looking at cars and discovered 22% financing.

Carter was a nuclear physicist. May have the only blessing of his Presidency, with Three Mile Island. But, Why in the .... wouldn't he continue with making nuclear safer and more expansion. What would our power grid look like today?

The hostages had been held in Iran over 400 days, were released the day before Reagan took office.

History will ATTEMPT to gloss over the failed term of Carter, but the fiasco can't be covered. Only outdone by bigger failures like Odumbo and **** Joe.

 

[WoodsCraft]

Was Jimmy Carter's heart in the right place? I am not sure to this day. Only good I think he has done has been Habitat for Humanity, and I think that is a stretch. Why do we have a nuclear waste problem and few nuclear power plants... Jimmy Carter, signed into law the legislation which ended nuclear waste recycling, which is one if not the best way to deal with it in many ways. He stunted nuclear power, partially due to Three Mile Island. An unimpressive president, but biden and obama were way worse. Why was obama worse? He destroyed 40 years of improving race relations and the economy got worse on purpose, he new what he was doing. Carter was simply out of his depth.

Something about the road to hell being paved with good intentions comes to mind

 

[DavidMcmillan]

You and I clearly have different memories of Carter , no one expected great things from Jimmy he was the choice made cause people were upset about Watergate and Ford's pardon of Nixon.

It wasn't optimism it was a knee jerk . The economy was way better under Tricky Dick unless you like double digit inflation and interest. Yeah those Carter years were awesome so awesome the old man got a sweet heart interest rate of 12% when they bought a new home close to the end of Carter's term . Jimmy Carter was able to take 6% interest rates of the early 1970's and double them. No never mind everything Carter did on the world stage weakened America .

Trump's first term we had an economy that was on fire after those 1 to 2% booms of Obama . Trump didn't get us in any wars and he didn't appease every despot that came down the pike . Yeah I'd say we have a comparison already

I agree with most of what you are saying, but Carter won as an outsider with supporters thinking he was just what was needed. Thungs worked pretty well for Trump's first run, and I hope we will see an even better turn these next four years. But, I know how we operate these days, and I doubt that he will be able to meet all our hopes and dreams, so it will be anybody's guess as to how long he will be our golden boy before we start with the usual OSA name calling.

 

[SoonerP226]

botch the rescue of American hostages from Tehran

He didn’t botch that. That was entirely on the guys in the military who planned and executed it (and I don’t think any of them have said otherwise); all Carter did was send them on his personal authority as the CiC.

If you want to know what actually went wrong and why, I’d suggest looking up Shawn Ryan’s recent podcast episode with Alan C. Mack of the 160th SOAR. He gives a pretty clear and concise breakdown of what happened from the POV of a special operations helicopter pilot (the 160th was actually created in the wake of that disaster).

 

[WoodsCraft]

He didn’t botch that. That was entirely on the guys in the military who planned and executed it (and I don’t think any of them have said otherwise); all Carter did was send them on his personal authority as the CiC.

If you want to know what actually went wrong and why, I’d suggest looking up Shawn Ryan’s recent podcast episode with Alan C. Mack of the 160th SOAR. He gives a pretty clear and concise breakdown of what happened from the POV of a special operations helicopter pilot (the 160th was actually created in the wake of that disaster).

I don't imagine you're a golfer based on the above. Carter was the CiC he owns it . I was in the US Army a long time and the commander always gets the credit for failures and successes.

 

[okcBob]

He didn’t botch that. That was entirely on the guys in the military who planned and executed it (and I don’t think any of them have said otherwise); all Carter did was send them on his personal authority as the CiC.

If you want to know what actually went wrong and why, I’d suggest looking up Shawn Ryan’s recent podcast episode with Alan C. Mack of the 160th SOAR. He gives a pretty clear and concise breakdown of what happened from the POV of a special operations helicopter pilot (the 160th was actually created in the wake of that disaster).

Saw an interview with Carter who said if he could do it again, he would have sent in more helicopter's to the OP.

 

[SoonerP226]

I don't imagine you're a golfer based on the above. Carter was the CiC he owns it . I was in the US Army a long time and the commander always gets the credit for failures and successes.

There’s a difference between him taking responsibility for it and him botching it. He didn’t plan the mission and he didn’t execute it, so how could he possibly have botched it?

 

[okcBob]

 

[WoodsCraft]

There’s a difference between him taking responsibility for it and him botching it. He didn’t plan the mission and he didn’t execute it, so how could he possibly have botched it?

He approved the plan and gave the consent to execute . Yes that’s how it works its his failure end of story.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

Have to remember this, part of the issue with Carter and Iran, he gave "sanctuary" to the Shah of Iran. He stuck his nose where it shouldn't have been, and we have been having issues ever since.