Not much love for the 35's?

[Okie4570]

I've killed a few deer and a hog with my Ruger 350 rem mag. Pretty unrated round, especially when reloaded with some 225gr ballistic tips. Remington didn't do the cartridge any favors by offering it in the model 600 and 660 first and it beat people up. Once it was offered in the model 700 it was too late imo. Barely made it into the 1970's when it was discontinued iirc.

 

[aarondhgraham]

Two totally different animals :

Average feet / sec.

. 35 Remington 2120
.357 Magnum 1294

Average Energy

.35 Remington 1876
.357 Magnum 528

So it's on a "lot" of steroids,,,
Thanks for the facts about the two cartridges.

I now know more than when I started.

Aarond

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[turkeyrun]

.35 Rem is very popular in NE. Basicly a .30-30 case necked to .358.

I never owned a .35 cal rifle. I would love to have a .38-55 Winchester, though.

I have never owned a .308 or .270, but my .30-06 will do anything they do, better.

Big fan of .260 Rem and 6.5x55.

Manufacturers come out with new calibers TO SELL NEW GUNS. Whether a cartridge takes off, is a shot in the dark.
Marketing hype, gun scribe hype may help, but no guarantees.
The Winchester Short Magnums, the Noslers are both good examples. Good cartridges but, for most part, extinct.
The .260 Rem vs the 6.5 CreedManbun is a no marketing vs great marketing story.

Availability of arms and actions is a huge factor.

 

[Clackamas Jack]

The 357 Mag came out probably 30 years after the 35 Remington. I would say its more like a necked up 30-30 instead of a 357 mag on steroids. A 357 Magnum on steroids is 357 Remington Maximum.

I wish the 350 Remington Mag was more popular. I think you are correct the Remington 600/660 kinda hurt the caliber and should have been released in the Remington 700 from the get go.

I am still a major fan of the 35 Whelen for what i can do.

 

[Clackamas Jack]

.35 Rem is very popular in NE. Basicly a .30-30 case necked to .358.

I never owned a .35 cal rifle. I would love to have a .38-55 Winchester, though.

I have never owned a .308 or .270, but my .30-06 will do anything they do, better.

Big fan of .260 Rem and 6.5x55.

Manufacturers come out with new calibers TO SELL NEW GUNS. Whether a cartridge takes off, is a shot in the dark.
Marketing hype, gun scribe hype may help, but no guarantees.
The Winchester Short Magnums, the Noslers are both good examples. Good cartridges but, for most part, extinct.
The .260 Rem vs the 6.5 CreedManbun is a no marketing vs great marketing story.

Availability of arms and actions is a huge factor.

I am also in the camp that the 30-06 is better than the 308 in most cases. Personally I am a 270 Win fan so I am biased.

I agree with the marketing between the 260 Rem and the 6.5 needsmore. My 6.5 of choice is the 264 Win Mag but it was coined as a barrel burner and the 7mm Remington Mag killed it when it was released but that wasn't coined a barrel burner.

 

[Okie4570]

I am also in the camp that the 30-06 is better than the 308 in most cases. Personally I am a 270 Win fan so I am biased.

I agree with the marketing between the 260 Rem and the 6.5 needsmore. My 6.5 of choice is the 264 Win Mag but it was coined as a barrel burner and the 7mm Remington Mag killed it when it was released but that wasn't coined a barrel burner.

Remington should have kept pushing the 6.5 Remington mag. It was just about equalling the .264 win mag but with an 18" barrel. Once again, if it would have been introduced in the 700 before the 600 it would have made it imo. Whoever Remington's R&D and marketing folks were during the 60's weren't that stellar lol.

 

[turkeyrun]

Remington should have kept pushing the 6.5 Remington mag. It was just about equalling the .264 win mag but with an 18" barrel. Once again, if it would have been introduced in the 700 before the 600 it would have made it imo. Whoever Remington's R&D and marketing folks were during the 60's weren't that stellar lol.

Remington has built some fine guns and developed some outstanding cartridges.
Their marketing and management, however, has been less than stellar.

The .260, 6.5 Rem Mag and .350 Rem Mag are a few example. I believe the decision to put the .350RM in the 600, was to help bolster sales on the 600. The 700 was well established.

Rem done the 6.5 RM in the 600 and doomed it, also.

They then released the 7mm Rem Mag, in the 700, and had a winner. Of course, in doing so, handicapped their outstanding response to better the .270 Win. The .280 Rem / 7mm Rem Express has an almost cult following because of its outstanding ballistics and rightly so. But between Rem marketing genius and Jack O'Connor hype, add in the magnum craze and 7mm Rem Mag, the .280 had Mt Everest of a road to success

 

[Clackamas Jack]

Remington has built some fine guns and developed some outstanding cartridges.
Their marketing and management, however, has been less than stellar.

The .260, 6.5 Rem Mag and .350 Rem Mag are a few example. I believe the decision to put the .350RM in the 600, was to help bolster sales on the 600. The 700 was well established.

Rem done the 6.5 RM in the 600 and doomed it, also.

They then released the 7mm Rem Mag, in the 700, and had a winner. Of course, in doing so, handicapped their outstanding response to better the .270 Win. The .280 Rem / 7mm Rem Express has an almost cult following because of its outstanding ballistics and rightly so. But between Rem marketing genius and Jack O'Connor hype, add in the magnum craze and 7mm Rem Mag, the .280 had Mt Everest of a road to success

Its interesting to see some cartridges fail and some succeed regardless of performance. The 270 Win being an odd ball for several years just being a .277 until Jack O'Conner really enhanced its popularity. Right now all the rage is the Creedmoors and PRC's but the 6.8 Western is dying and its a heck of a round.

 

[GlockPride]

More have moved towards the 6.5 vs .30 or .35 mostly due to better bc’s and wanting to shoot LR/ELR.

 

[Okie4570]

Remington has built some fine guns and developed some outstanding cartridges.
Their marketing and management, however, has been less than stellar.

The .260, 6.5 Rem Mag and .350 Rem Mag are a few example. I believe the decision to put the .350RM in the 600, was to help bolster sales on the 600. The 700 was well established.

Rem done the 6.5 RM in the 600 and doomed it, also.

They then released the 7mm Rem Mag, in the 700, and had a winner. Of course, in doing so, handicapped their outstanding response to better the .270 Win. The .280 Rem / 7mm Rem Express has an almost cult following because of its outstanding ballistics and rightly so. But between Rem marketing genius and Jack O'Connor hype, add in the magnum craze and 7mm Rem Mag, the .280 had Mt Everest of a road to success

I'm in that cult lol. Still have a full box of 7mm Express and quite a few Express stamped brass mixed into my .280 stash here and there.