Official OSA COVID-19/Corona Virus Thread

[Aries]

Counting people who die of "other causes" while suffering from the COVID-19 virus is consistent with standard medical practice. There are numerous reasons for this, but basically suffice it to say that no disease exists in a vacuum.

When I was in school they quoted us that 80% of people over 80 who have a long bone fracture never make it out of the hospital. They die from strokes, heart attacks, pneumonia or a number of other complications - seldom anything directly related to the fractured hip or leg. The reasons have to do with inflammation, stress on already-weak body systems, etc. These people still get counted in epidemiological studies as deaths related to their fracture or to surgeries to repair things - surgeons frequently hate that these numbers get attributed to their surgical complications, and I understand why, but it's the way it is done, consistently.

Other countries were not counting them as COVID-19 deaths to keep their numbers down... the US is doing it to keep consistency with normal medical recordkeeping. COVID-19 can cause you to have a heart attack, if you have the underlying risk factors that make you prone to one already - atherosclerotic disease, primarily. Maybe you would have gone another year or two before having it, but it is still attributable to the infection triggering a cascade of events.

I think I read once long ago that anytime someone with diabetes dies, it is ALWAYS ruled as a complication of diabetes. I assume something like a murder might be an exception. Does that sound right or did my pea-sized brain get mixed up on something?

 

[ZombieHunter]

This reminds me of the movie "V for Vendetta".

If they said outright that our government is changing this country to a socialist state, it wouldn't stand much of a chance. This way they can lie, cajole, and scare this country into a socialist state. Not enough people see it coming.

Woody

Before today and this pandemic we already had corporate socialism, allowing things like mortgage brokers to be bailed out after stealing billions, bankers who launder drug cartel money and derivative swaps, coal power plants being funded instead of new generation technologies in solar.

Oh yah, giving the PEOPLE money is socialism, giving companies money for nothing is just capitalism.....


/s

 

[tRidiot]

I think I read once long ago that anytime someone with diabetes dies, it is ALWAYS ruled as a complication of diabetes. I assume something like a murder might be an exception. Does that sound right or did my pea-sized brain get mixed up on something?

A death certificate usually has an end cause of death with several contributing factors. If someone is diabetic that is most of the time going to be one of the contributing factors listed, yes. It's just the nature of it, it contributes to so many health problems. So the list on a death cert I fill out will often look like this:

Cardiopulmonary arrest
Coronary artery disease
Atherosclerotic vascular disease
Type II diabetes mellitus
Cigarette smoking

 

[TerryMiller]

Regarding Dr. Fauci, who is advising the President:

The Conservative Treehouse - Fauci Love Letters to Hillary Clinton Surfaces

I'm not sure I buy into the "theory," but what if Dr. Fauci was surreptitiously feeding the President differing "projections" so as to get the President accused of "waffling during the pandemic?" Revenge for the Hildebeast?

 

[chuter]

... coal power plants being funded instead of new generation technologies in solar.

So I guess you didn't hear about Solyndra?
https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeature...ra-Scandal-Green-Energy/2015/01/29/id/621537/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/26/solyndra-misled-government-get-535-million-solar-p/

 

[ZombieHunter]

So I guess you didn't hear about Solyndra?
https://www.newsmax.com/FastFeature...ra-Scandal-Green-Energy/2015/01/29/id/621537/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/26/solyndra-misled-government-get-535-million-solar-p/

Ever heard of Elon Musk and Tesla?

 

[chuter]

Ever heard of Elon Musk and Tesla?

Yes, and?

You said "coal power plants being funded instead of new generation technologies in solar." and I pointed out that the gov did fund solar, and it failed.

 

[TerryMiller]

Yes, and?

You said "coal power plants being funded instead of new generation technologies in solar." and I pointed out that the gov did fund solar, and it failed.

I think that was "over his head."

 

[Okie4570]

 

[Dale00]

Man do we need a break ...some humor: