Official OSA COVID-19/Corona Virus Thread

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You don't understand what I said. Whether you use Google, duck duck whatever, etc...... my point was that the basis of your "knowledge" only extends to an internet search.

BS .. when okcbob first brought up this topic. I stated that I had zero interest in this topic and requested he provide actual evidence for his topic. now that I've spent a number of hours researching.

I've been posting what came up. now why don't cha respond to the meat of the matter?

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why no feedback on the meat of the matter?
please note site linked used only because it's hosting a video that gets censored


Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine. (thewallwillfall.org)

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/11/this-is-not-a-vaccine/amp/

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who was it that was claiming below is tabloid level info? ha ha ha

Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine.

technical white linked below dovetails into 6 min video with Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-based Vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/

However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome. However, in reality, this only holds true in the
US since in Europe, any active pharmaceutical ingredient, which contains or consists of a recombinant
nucleic acid, used in or administered to human beings, falls under the scope of the regulation for
advanced therapy medicinal products [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as
gene therapy. The burgeoning field of mRNA vaccines is very exciting [3,7] and considerable amounts
of relevant preclinical data have been generated, and several clinical trials have been initiated during
the last decade. This gives rise to the vision of translating the mRNA vaccines into human application
for prophylaxis and therapy. In this review, we discuss the current trends in mRNA vaccine approaches
and various strategies and systems for delivering mRNA vaccines.

 

[okcBob]

This article does not say the current covid vaccines alter your DNA. So, please put many more hrs into research & find the answer. The human race depends on you....

 

[_CY_]

This article does not say the current covid vaccines alter your DNA. So, please put many more hrs into research & find the answer. The human race depends on you....

why no feedback on the meat of the matter?
please note site linked used only because it's hosting a video that gets censored

perhaps it's YOU that's confused. you still refuse to acknowledge nature article you posted is clearly on a topic that has nothing to do with what you claimed provided actual evidence. that mRNA "vaccine" doesn't effect DNA.

same for the supporting technical document I posted that pre-dated nature article on essentially same top topic, most importantly pre-dated C19, so politically incorrect data are included. ie article clearly states mRNA "vaccine" is not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

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Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine. (thewallwillfall.org)

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/11/this-is-not-a-vaccine/amp/

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who was it that was claiming below is tabloid level info? ha ha ha

Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine.

technical white linked below dovetails into 6 min video with Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-based Vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/

However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome. However, in reality, this only holds true in the
US since in Europe, any active pharmaceutical ingredient, which contains or consists of a recombinant
nucleic acid, used in or administered to human beings, falls under the scope of the regulation for
advanced therapy medicinal products [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as
gene therapy. The burgeoning field of mRNA vaccines is very exciting [3,7] and considerable amounts
of relevant preclinical data have been generated, and several clinical trials have been initiated during
the last decade. This gives rise to the vision of translating the mRNA vaccines into human application
for prophylaxis and therapy. In this review, we discuss the current trends in mRNA vaccine approaches
and various strategies and systems for delivering mRNA vaccines.

 

[_CY_]

From Dr. Mercola about a month ago. Scary info about mRNA vaccines

• Previous coronavirus vaccine efforts — including those for SARS, MERS and RSV — have revealed a serious concern: The vaccines have a tendency to trigger antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)
• ADE means that rather than enhance your immunity against the infection, the vaccine actually enhances the virus’ ability to enter and infect your cells, resulting in more severe disease than had you not been vaccinated
• There’s evidence showing the elderly — who are most vulnerable to severe COVID-19 and would need the vaccine the most — are also the most vulnerable to ADE and Th2 immunopathology

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...ronavirus-antibody-dependent-enhancement.aspx

no sauce: means no actual evidence, but since info below seems to be on topic enough to at least consider. just as important provides data points for those who wants of dive in further.

The four key safety concerns specified in the petition11 to the European Medicine Agency are:

1. The potential for formation of non-neutralizing antibodies that can trigger an exaggerated immune reaction (referred to as paradoxical immune enhancement or antibody-dependent immune amplification) when the individual is exposed to the real "wild" virus post-vaccination.
Antibody-dependent amplification has been repeatedly demonstrated in coronavirus vaccine trials on animals.12 While the animals initially tolerated the vaccine well and had robust immune responses, they later became severely ill or died when infected with the wild virus. Put plainly, the vaccine increased their susceptibility to the virus and made them more likely to die from the infection.

2. Pfizer's mRNA vaccine contains polyethylene glycol (PEG), and studies have shown 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance. This suggests PEG may trigger fatal allergic reactions in many who receive the vaccine.
Indeed, within days of the vaccine's release, reports started coming in of people having life-threatening anaphylactic reactions,13 leading to warnings that people with known allergies should not take the Pfizer vaccine.14 Since then, anaphylactic reactions have been reported by recipients of the Moderna mRNA vaccine as well.15

3. The mRNA vaccine triggers your body to produce antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and spike proteins in turn contain syncytin-homologous proteins that are essential for the formation of placenta. If a woman's immune system starts reacting against syncytin-1, then there is the possibility she could become infertile.
This is an issue that none of the vaccine studies is looking at specifically. Mass vaccinating women of childbearing age against COVID-19 could potentially have the devastating consequence of causing mass infertility if the vaccine triggers an immune reaction against syncytin-1. The petition states that this possibility must be "absolutely ruled out" before mass vaccination takes place.

4. The studies are far too brief in duration to allow a realistic estimation of side effects. Depending on what those effects end up being, millions of people may be exposed to unacceptable risk in return for a very minor benefit.

 

[okcBob]

You’re changing the subject. Your evidence has nothing to do with the topic-current vaccines do not alter our dna. If you agree on that, then we can advance to another topic.
Lol you still can’t get over the nature article. It’s all explained in there if you know how to find it.

 

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Top Medical Inventor - COVID mRNA “Vaccine” Not A Vaccine
https://ugetube.com/watch/top-medical-inventor-covid-mrna-vaccine-not-a-vaccine_Bw4vEkwkI36oTH8.html

Medical inventor and author David Martin proves that the Pfiser and Moderna mRNA vaccines are not vaccines by medical definition and how Big Pharma is using national and state emergency authorizations to force these untested gene therapies onto the population.

Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577


References • It is unlawful under the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 41 et seq., to advertise that a product or service can prevent, treat, or cure human disease unless you possess competent and reliable scientific evidence, including, when appropriate, well-controlled human clinical studies, substantiating that the claims are true at the time they are made. 
 • Definition of Vaccine https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/v....ac-gen/imz-basics.ht • Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected. 
 • Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that 
disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose. 
 • “The primary endpoint is the prevention of symptomatic COVID-19 disease. Key secondary endpoints include prevention of severe COVID- 19 disease and prevention of infection by SARS-CoV-2.” https://investors.modernatx.co....m/news-releases/news covid-19-vaccine-candidate-meets-its-primary- efficacy#:~:text=About%20the%20Phase%203%20COVE%20Study&text=The%20primary%20endpoint%20is%20the,by%20SARS%2DCoV%2 D2. 
 • “As of this writing, no correlate of protection for SARS-CoV-2 has been established.” https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/....10.1056/NEJMoa202843 
 • “No existing vaccines have been shown to be effective against infection with any betacoronavirus, the family that includes SARS-CoV-2, which causes Covid-19.” Polack FP, Thomas SJ, Kitchin N, et al. Safety and efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 vaccine. N Engl J Med 2020;383:2603-2615.

 

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You’re changing the subject. Your evidence has nothing to do with the topic-current vaccines do not alter our dna. If you agree on that, then we can advance to another topic.
Lol you still can’t get over the nature article. It’s all explained in there if you know how to find it.

so what I'm changing YOUR topic. which has never been my interest.
why don't cha admit the nature article has NOTHING to do with YOUR claim and be done.

why no feedback on the meat of the matter?
please note site linked used only because it's hosting a video that gets censored

perhaps it's YOU that's confused. you still refuse to acknowledge nature article you posted is clearly on a topic that has nothing to do with what you claimed provided actual evidence. that mRNA "vaccine" doesn't effect DNA.

same for the supporting technical document I posted that pre-dated nature article on essentially same top topic, most importantly pre-dated C19, so politically incorrect data are included. ie article clearly states mRNA "vaccine" is not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

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Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine. (thewallwillfall.org)

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/11/this-is-not-a-vaccine/amp/

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who was it that was claiming below is tabloid level info? ha ha ha

Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine.

technical white linked below dovetails into 6 min video with Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-based Vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/

However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome. However, in reality, this only holds true in the
US since in Europe, any active pharmaceutical ingredient, which contains or consists of a recombinant
nucleic acid, used in or administered to human beings, falls under the scope of the regulation for
advanced therapy medicinal products [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as
gene therapy. The burgeoning field of mRNA vaccines is very exciting [3,7] and considerable amounts
of relevant preclinical data have been generated, and several clinical trials have been initiated during
the last decade. This gives rise to the vision of translating the mRNA vaccines into human application
for prophylaxis and therapy. In this review, we discuss the current trends in mRNA vaccine approaches
and various strategies and systems for delivering mRNA vaccines.

 

[okcBob]

So, it’s never been your interest.....Exactly, because you know it doesn’t alter our DNA. So you change the topic. If your not interested in my topic, why do you keep commenting on it? You can still bloviate on your new conspiracy theory.

 

[_CY_]

So, it’s never been your interest.....Exactly, because you know it doesn’t alter our DNA. So you change the topic. If your not interested in my topic, why do you keep commenting on it? You can still bloviate on your new conspiracy theory.

that is correct .. right from the get go .. I stated that topic is NOT my interest.

why don't cha admit the nature article has NOTHING to do with YOUR claim and be done.

why no feedback on the meat of the matter?
please note site linked used only because it's hosting a video that gets censored

perhaps it's YOU that's confused. you still refuse to acknowledge nature article you posted is clearly on a topic that has nothing to do with what you claimed provided actual evidence. that mRNA "vaccine" doesn't effect DNA.

same for the supporting technical document I posted that pre-dated nature article on essentially same top topic, most importantly pre-dated C19, so politically incorrect data are included. ie article clearly states mRNA "vaccine" is not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

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Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine. (thewallwillfall.org)

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/11/this-is-not-a-vaccine/amp/

=====
who was it that was claiming below is tabloid level info? ha ha ha

Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine.

technical white linked below dovetails into 6 min video with Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-based Vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/

However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome. However, in reality, this only holds true in the
US since in Europe, any active pharmaceutical ingredient, which contains or consists of a recombinant
nucleic acid, used in or administered to human beings, falls under the scope of the regulation for
advanced therapy medicinal products [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as
gene therapy. The burgeoning field of mRNA vaccines is very exciting [3,7] and considerable amounts
of relevant preclinical data have been generated, and several clinical trials have been initiated during
the last decade. This gives rise to the vision of translating the mRNA vaccines into human application
for prophylaxis and therapy. In this review, we discuss the current trends in mRNA vaccine approaches
and various strategies and systems for delivering mRNA vaccines.

 

[okcBob]

that is correct .. right from the get go .. I stated that topic is NOT my interest.

why don't cha admit the nature article has NOTHING to do with YOUR claim and be done.

why no feedback on the meat of the matter?
please note site linked used only because it's hosting a video that gets censored

perhaps it's YOU that's confused. you still refuse to acknowledge nature article you posted is clearly on a topic that has nothing to do with what you claimed provided actual evidence. that mRNA "vaccine" doesn't effect DNA.

same for the supporting technical document I posted that pre-dated nature article on essentially same top topic, most importantly pre-dated C19, so politically incorrect data are included. ie article clearly states mRNA "vaccine" is not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

=========



Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine. (thewallwillfall.org)

https://thewallwillfall.org/2021/01/11/this-is-not-a-vaccine/amp/

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who was it that was claiming below is tabloid level info? ha ha ha

Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits explain why the mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine.

technical white linked below dovetails into 6 min video with Dr. David Martin and Judy Mikovits

Opportunities and Challenges in the Delivery of mRNA-based Vaccines
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/

However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome. However, in reality, this only holds true in the
US since in Europe, any active pharmaceutical ingredient, which contains or consists of a recombinant
nucleic acid, used in or administered to human beings, falls under the scope of the regulation for
advanced therapy medicinal products [6]. Therefore, mRNA-based therapeutics are categorized as
gene therapy. The burgeoning field of mRNA vaccines is very exciting [3,7] and considerable amounts
of relevant preclinical data have been generated, and several clinical trials have been initiated during
the last decade. This gives rise to the vision of translating the mRNA vaccines into human application
for prophylaxis and therapy. In this review, we discuss the current trends in mRNA vaccine approaches
and various strategies and systems for delivering mRNA vaccines.

That’s correct? You agree that the current covid vaccines do not alter our DNA?

Works for me, glad you came around & we can get past that