OKC PD Local Hero

[Snattlerake]

New law disqualifies anyone charged or arrested for DUI for holding a CLEET license. Without a CLEET license, he can't be an Officer. Even if he pleads it down to a misdemeanor, he's done. Charges would have to be dismissed and at this point, that's not likely going to happen. This is far from over. He will be unemployed, and he will lose some retirement benefits. He will not put his papers in and slide off quietly into the night. No post retirement job in uniform making money at the Thunder games, Paycom, banks, etc. He'll be working Loss Prevention at Home Depot, or door greeter at Walmart. He's already living at his mom's, I don't see things getting much better for him after this. Oh, and I came back to add, that was his city vehicle he was driving...

Something tells me he has done this before, and gotten away with it.

 

[bigfug]

Something tells me he has done this before, and gotten away with it.

He's made some morally questionable decisions in his personal life, but nothing breaking the law that I have heard. Those decisions are why he's living at his mom's and drinking. This law is also new, only been in the past year or so, and before body cams existed, and under a different command. Things have changed, and are changing as you can see by the video. There is no getting away with it this time,, unless the DA drops all charges and exonerates him. I believe the bill passed on DV and assaults, before you could have misdemeanor charges and convictions and still hold a CLEET license, and only a felony would disqualify you.

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Back when I was doing up to 3 DUIs per night I recall hearing the average person who is arrested for DUI has committed the offense something like 8 or 10 times without being caught.

Now I see the statistics say the person drives intoxicated up to 80 times before being caught.

 

[Snattlerake]

Back when I was doing up to 3 DUIs per night I recall hearing the average person who is arrested for DUI has committed the offense something like 8 or 10 times without being caught.

Now I see the statistics say the person drives intoxicated up to 80 times before being caught.

From start, actually the stop to finish, it took me 3 hours to process a DUI. My normal was 3 to 4 a week. I did three on Christmas Day on DAY SHIFT!

 

[Raido Free America]

Something tells me he has done this before, and gotten away with it.

I know of a few instances first hand, where special treatment for politicians and city officials, was applied. This diffinately did happen years ago, and likely still does!

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

From start, actually the stop to finish, it took me 3 hours to process a DUI. My normal was 3 to 4 a week. I did three on Christmas Day on DAY SHIFT!

Our process at the PD was pretty streamlined. On a normal shift working a district, average time, from stop to detox (we usually didn't jail them), was 1.5 to 1.75 hours. Add a half hour if we jailed them. The county had a jail annex right across from the PD that was pretty handy. We had a worksheet that was mostly a check-the-box thing with space for notes like HGN numbers, SFST numbers, etc. The main FD HQ was co-located with the PD...so if we needed blood we could usually get a qualified paramedic for the blood draw.

Refusals were really quick and easy. On a refusal I could cut processing time at the PD to about 10 mins...all we had to do was a detox intake...everything else was check the box aside from the narrative.

I'd usually have the report done by the time I'd finished my observation.

When I got promoted and was the shift sgt, it was even quicker. Do the stop and SFSTs and hand it off to a district officer.

I'd sometimes have another one stopped before the first officer finished the report!

Different story when I worked for the county up in the mountains. The SO was down in a Denver suburb and I was a minimum of 45 mins away...usually more than an hour. So I had at least an hour drive time added to the stop.

 

[Snattlerake]

Besides the initial ticket for the stop, I had an arrest report, an inventory search of the vehicle, an intoxilyzer 5000 session which required observation of 30 minutes before we could perform the test. Then booking and sometimes bonding out. Then I had to do the narrative and type the daily blotter entry, Get a case number for the ticket and file it. Three hours was a minimum.

 

[Sgt Dog]

Can’t imagine a life beating myself up if I lost a retirement after a bone-head decision to drive four blocks from a poker game!

He earned the stop and the charge, no doubt. But can’t help but feel for a guy that self-sabotaged an entire career.

Had he hurt somebody the sympathy meter would understandably shift.

 

[Gadsden]

I remember a 21 year veteran trooper in Colorado (@OK Corgi Rancher you might remember this) caught weaving in his patrol vehicle on I 25 IIRC. After being stopped by county he was found to be DUI. He was not only charged for DUI he was also charged for having a weapon in his possession while being intoxicated. I'm pretty sure he was terminated and lost all his retirement because of his stupid and IMO unforgivable, decision to drive under the influence.

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Sounds vaguely familiar. Unfortunately, it's not an uncommon thing so it's hard to remember a lot of them.