This video is not from OK. If I remember correctly, it is from Portland, Maine. Their laws differ from ours.
Police get OWNED by guy who know's his rights.. For concealed or open carry people!!
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This video is not from OK. If I remember correctly, it is from Portland, Maine. Their laws differ from ours.
I disagree with you. The asking the name is fishing for information hoping the guy will slip up. Anything you say can and will be held against you. A name would have led to a call to dispatch for further investigation.
In Oklahoma you must show ID and permit. On YouTube there are several videos from Oregon where people do stuff similar to this and it is legal for them.
Different state, different set of laws, and apparently that state doesn't require showing ID.
Cop was in the wrong for stopping him, and while the gun owner can be accused of being a bit of an attention whore in this case, it could just as easily have been someone who wasn't carrying a cam and recording.
I'm sure that happens countless times.
In the cop's defense, he stayed pretty mellow, called in someone who was more knowledgeable, and he was given his pistol immediately.
By posting the anti-cop rants previous to his encounter, the gun owner did put himself in a bad light to a lot of viewers.
Perhaps if he also posted some positive comments about law enforcement, his post would have been seen as more objective.
Cop was in the wrong for stopping him, and while the gun owner can be accused of being a bit of an attention whore in this case, it could just as easily have been someone who wasn't carrying a cam and recording.
I'm sure that happens countless times.
In the cop's defense, he stayed pretty mellow, called in someone who was more knowledgeable, and he was given his pistol immediately.
By posting the anti-cop rants previous to his encounter, the gun owner did put himself in a bad light to a lot of viewers.
Perhaps if he also posted some positive comments about law enforcement, his post would have been seen as more objective.
I can agree with you to a point but the Cop knows the law. He was just trying to get around it by continuing to keep asking for it. The law is the law and it's not for local LEO's to try to get around it. What would happen if we tried to side step a ticket? we knew the law but kept driving faster anyway. I am not a LEO basher but I think that a lot of the young guns that we have on the streets today have a lot to learn and some of them will learn the hard way. What happened to the day when they were part of the community, Kids interacted with them and Parents looked up to them? Now days they act like they own the place. I had rather deal with one 45 years old or older. My best friend is retired LEO and we have discussed this several times.
It sounds like some of you are saying that Oklahoma is a Stop and Identify State......I know some States allow this, but I wasn't aware Oklahoma required one to show ID unless one is being detained for the commission of a crime.
In Oklahoma if you are OPEN CARRYING and are asked to provide your permit you are REQUIRED to do so ... If you are CONCEAL CARRYING you are required to notify an officer during the course of official business ... There are a TON of threads here about these two issues, with the pertinent statutes quoted in them ... Or you can go to oscn.net and look them up yourself.
The only time OK is a stop and ID state is if you are open carry and an officer wants to check your permit. Other than that all you need to do if you are being detained for something (other than driving or carrying a firearm under the SDA) is verbally provide your correct name.
The problem is that some officers will try and make a person provide identification of some kind for no reason at all. This is where the issue comes in...I'm not doing anything wrong, I don't have to show ID. Then the other side says, well if you have noting to hide, why not show the ID and be done with it? Answer is...because I don't have to.
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