Poll: Marijuana Law Reform

[otis147]

http://rare.us/story/the-government-just-approved-an-even-weirder-way-to-get-drunk/

we can start snorting powdered alcohol this fall, but don't you dare grow a flower...

 

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Since it says there are bad side effects to marijuana use someone will be along shortly to tell you how it is made up and marijuana is no more harmful than distilled water.

we've gone from pot being equally harmful as heroin (both classified as schedule 1) to now no harm at all. both are wrong .. why do you think pot is called dope? (edit: evidently now dope means heroin)

pot will make you stoned silly .. operating heavy equipment, including cars while stoned silly will get people killed. but no one has ever over dosed and died from pot .. a very important distinction.

being stoned silly will make you forget about homework and/or a host of other important duties. but of all the things one can ingest to get high .. IHMO pot is the least harmful substance known to man.

how could there NOT be a natural distrust for the authority that's been telling lies about pot for 50+ years?
thank goodness legalization is finally coming home to roost .. sure hope all the folks locked up in jail for pot gets released too.
the for profit prison folks will naturally fight it tooth and nail .. same for the drug enforcement folks who's livelihood depends on funding against pot.

 

[SeanO]

why do you think pot is called dope?

Do you mind if I ask how old you are?

Pot is no longer called dope. The only people I hear call it dope anymore are cops, teachers and those over 40yrs old.

Dope is the term used for heroin now a days.

Sorry but calling weed "dope" just bothers me since it gives the impression youre doing heroin.




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[Danny Tanner]

What are some actually legitimate downsides to smoking marijuana? (self.AskReddit)
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/23kon2/what_are_some_actually_legitimate_downsides_to/

Only a few people have mentioned this but it can actually induce/aggravate panic disorder and magnify anxiety. Lived it first hand. Not fun. Had to consult a psychiatrist because it got really bad. Even after not smoking for a while.

[–]YoYoDingDongYo 142 points 2 hours ago

This is why I quit. I was having anxiety-induced PVCs all day long, and eventually figured out that the weed was causing them. I quit smoking and they were gone in a week.

Now I can smoke occasionally (every month or two) with no problem, but errday is no good for me.

[–]roliav 10 points 2 hours ago

damn i used to get them all the time, but ive never made the link between the two. Do you mind me asking if you still get them occasionally? I haven't smoked in a while and i still experience those 'skipped beats', albeit less frequently

[–]brosophila 107 points 2 hours ago

Same. It was awful. I still smoke on occasion, but I've found that if I'm feeling at all anxious beforehand, smoking only makes it worse.

[–]Chris_PBacon 26 points 1 hour ago

I definitely agree with this. If anything in my life is particularly unstable or upsetting, it only magnifies it.

[–]petaimholdinmelons 48 points 1 hour ago

Same here. Sometimes I felt like I was dying, it was awful. It seemed to come out of nowhere too, like I smoked everyday for about 5 years and all of a sudden BOOM panic attack and then from there it continued until I finally quit.


TheHotCoco 706 points 5 hours ago

My dad was a pot smoker. My entire life. I've probably had more 2nd hand cannabis experience than most ents and most certainly more than the average demographic of Reddit ents. I didn't put 2 and 2 together until I was at a college party. "Why you are smoking the same stuff my dad smoked in his pipe growing up" ... "It's marijuana".

The way he got around the money issue was he never bought it, he grew. When we cleaned out his estate we found gallon sized mason jars full of it.

Straight A student didn't put 2 and 2 together in high school. The rhetoric I was fed at school told me pot heads couldn't hold down a job (my dad had worked for his company for 20 years), pot heads couldn't do sports (my dad was captain of his softball team at work for about as long) he ran half marathons, pretty much every image I had of a pot smoker I've had in my head was flat out wrong.

Then I talked to my mom. Not only did he smoke, he grew for 40+ years. From the time he was in his 20s until the year he died. Our "massive garden" was mostly store bought starter plants. All of the seeds from scratch we had in our house were all his plants. He hid them on a spot of the 50 acres we grew up on that we never went to. From the time I was allowed out of my house until the time I left for college I avoided one spot of the woods. Because growing up he tricked us into fearing the location.

There's a reason I'm in my 30s and just starting. Because it's taken that long to unwind all the mis-information I've been fed over the years. And that's why I hate seeing constant misinformation from adults. I have never seen my dad hallucinate, I never saw him pick up a gun and threaten my mom or my brother.

This anxiety can be brought on worse by one type of marijuana over the other (sativa vs indica, I just can't remember which does which).

These anxiety attacks are termed "whiteys", a name given by rastafarians to white tourists who couldn't keep up with the locals. Basically, it's a blood sugar drop. If you're known to suffer from whiteys or usually aren't but catch yourself caught in one after smoking, get your blood sugar up with chocolate, Kool-Aid, or something else with a high sugar content. Stay away from caffeinated drinks like tea, sodas, etc as that'll accelerate your heart even more, making the situation worse.

It's not always the cause and not always the cure, but will help in most cases. Just like guns, I support everyone's right to possess and use, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should. It's not for everyone and that's alright.

 

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Do you mind if I ask how old you are?

Pot is no longer called dope. The only people I hear call it dope anymore are cops, teachers and those over 40yrs old.

Dope is the term used for heroin now a days.

Sorry but calling weed "dope" just bothers me since it gives the impression youre doing heroin.




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guilty as charged .. way back when anything that got you high except alcohol was called dope.
had no clue dope is now slang for heroin ..

it's pass time pot was legalized for recreational and medicinal use.
have long thought that when kids find out smoking pot is no where dangerous as the official lie.
kids would also think heroin or cocaine is not really dangerous either???

which of course heroin and cocaine can quickly destroy lives!!!
vs pot heads have been known to hold jobs, pay off mortgages, live healthy productive lives, etc.

without a doubt the most dangerous thing about smoking pot is risk of getting arrested, your assets confiscated and sent to jail.

 

[henschman]

so, there's going to be a liberty-minded candidate opposing mary fallin in the republican primary.
he supports full decriminalization.
https://m.facebook.com/DaxEwbank

I know Dax... I worked with him in the Ron Paul campaign in 2012, and he was a fellow delegate to the RNC in Tampa. He is a great guy... very intellectually honest.

Chad Moody "the Drug Lawyer," a fellow member of the criminal defense bar and also an ideological libertarian, will be challenging Fallin for the Republican nomination. I know him too, and he is also a great guy. You mostly hear his name in connection with the cause of marijuana legalization, but he is just as passionate (if not more so) about bringing down the police state.

Anyway, it's nice that pro-liberty Oklahomans will have good protest vote option in both the Republican primary and the general election. I'm going to see what I can do to help both of these guys out... if nothing else it's good for a little publicity for the cause of liberty... that and I promised the Bailout Queen that I would do everything in my power to make sure she never holds office again after the TARP vote in 2007. I think her re-election is inevitable, but anything I can do to help give her a black eye will be most satisfying.

 

[loudshirt]

guilty as charged .. way back when anything that got you high except alcohol was called dope.
had no clue dope is now slang for heroin ..

it's pass time pot was legalized for recreational and medicinal use.
have long thought that when kids find out smoking pot is no where dangerous as the official lie.
kids would also think heroin or cocaine is not really dangerous either???

which of course heroin and cocaine can quickly destroy lives!!!
vs pot heads have been known to hold jobs, pay off mortgages, live healthy productive lives, etc.

without a doubt the most dangerous thing about smoking pot is risk of getting arrested, your assets confiscated and sent to jail.

I dont know, we sure seem to celebrate a bunch of people who OD on Heroin.

In all honesty I think the right route to take would be to legalize medicinal marijuana in pill form first. Then slowly move to other forms for medical use. Once we see how some other states do after a longer term of legalized recreational use then work on legalization here. One of the big problems I see is we do not have enough data to say legalization is good or bad. We have plenty of anecdotal evidence on both sides. One side wants to show you how it is the greatest thing ever to happen to the states that legalize it, the other wants to show you all the pot heads in the streets. Both side are wrong the good and bad are somewhere in the middle. Both sides need to accept that there are positives and negative to legalization.

 

[otis147]

i still don't see any positives to having outlawed it in the first place. and what about industrial hemp? why is it not legal?

 

[Coded-Dude]

big tobacco and big timber were strong proponents for making it illegal; big prison and big police are strong proponents for keeping it illegal.

 

[henschman]

one of the big problems I see is we do not have enough data to say legalization is good or bad. We have plenty of anecdotal evidence on both sides. One side wants to show you how it is the greatest thing ever to happen to the states that legalize it, the other wants to show you all the pot heads in the streets. Both side are wrong the good and bad are somewhere in the middle. Both sides need to accept that there are positives and negative to legalization.

What other liberties should be preemptively denied to people until it is proved to your satisfaction that their "pros" outweigh their "cons?"