Yep. Lots of good info above. My boss has a Rogers County and Mayes County book. It's like a map with owners name and property lines marked.
What part of Creek County? I have some land at the south end of the county. County seat is in Supulpa,.
Maybe this will help
http://24.173.220.139/creek/SearchHelp.aspx
"The Creek County Land Records database contains only documents filed from 1806 to the present.
You may search this site just like the program currently used in the County Clerk's office. Unofficial documents may be viewed and printed at no cost. If you need an official document, (certified copy) those documents can be obtained in the Clerk's office. Please make sure that your pop-up blocker is turned off."
http://24.173.220.139/creek/SearchHelp.aspx
"The Creek County Land Records database contains only documents filed from 1806 to the present.
You may search this site just like the program currently used in the County Clerk's office. Unofficial documents may be viewed and printed at no cost. If you need an official document, (certified copy) those documents can be obtained in the Clerk's office. Please make sure that your pop-up blocker is turned off."
"Only" 1806 to present? So "only" 101 years before statehood?
That's a helluva disclaimer.
Isn't it though?? That's like saying, "We're sorry that we only have more than you would reasonably expect."
Not going to be much in pre U.S. Government Patent issuance. In fact the U.S. Government Patent NULLS all previous land records if there are any that separate any mineral or other interests, The U.S. Gov. Patent is like the ultra pokemon'.
That was sort of my point. The records "only" go back to the sovereign, which is pretty much the ultimate title search. In reality, it's generally only necessary to go back long enough to squash any other claim via adverse possession, though going back further is often wise.
Of course, there's this gem about title searches:
Note that the tale has been found as far back as a 1936 Wall Street Journal article, though the reported target was a buyer, not FHA (which didn't come into existence until much later). But it's still funny to contemplate a title search back to the Ultimate Sovereign.
Subject: Louisiana Lawyer
A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client. He was told the loan
would be granted if he could prove satisfactory title to a parcel of
property being offered as collateral. The title to the property dated back
to 1803, which took the Lawyer three months to track down. After sending the
information to the FHA, he received the following reply:
(Actual letter)
“Upon review of your letter adjoining your client’s loan application, we
note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we
compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the
application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the
proposed collateral property back to 1803. Before final approval can be
accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin.”
Annoyed, the lawyer responded as follows (actual letter):
“Your letter regarding title in Case No. 189156 has been received. I note
that you wish to have title extended further than the 194 years covered by
the present application. I was unaware that any educated person in this
country, particularly those working in the property area, would not know
that Louisiana was purchased, by the U.S., from France in 1803, the year of
origin identified in our application. For the edification of uninformed FHA
bureaucrats, the title to the land prior to U.S. ownership was obtained from
France, which had acquired it by Right of Conquest from Spain. The land came
into the possession of Spain by Right of Discovery made in the year 1492 by
a sea captain named Christopher Columbus, who had been granted the privilege
of seeking a new route to India by the Spanish monarch, Isabella. The good
queen, Isabella, being a pious woman and almost as careful about titles as
the FHA, took the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she
sold her jewels to finance Columbus’ expedition. Now the Pope, as I’m sure
you may know, is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God,it is
commonly accepted, created this world. Therefore, I believe it is safe to
presume that God also made that part of the world called Louisiana.
God, therefore, would be the owner of origin and His origins date back, to
before the beginning of time, the world as we know it AND the FHA. I hope
you find God’s original claim to be satisfactory. Now, may we have our damn
loan?”
The loan was approved.
A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client. He was told the loan
would be granted if he could prove satisfactory title to a parcel of
property being offered as collateral. The title to the property dated back
to 1803, which took the Lawyer three months to track down. After sending the
information to the FHA, he received the following reply:
(Actual letter)
“Upon review of your letter adjoining your client’s loan application, we
note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we
compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the
application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the
proposed collateral property back to 1803. Before final approval can be
accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin.”
Annoyed, the lawyer responded as follows (actual letter):
“Your letter regarding title in Case No. 189156 has been received. I note
that you wish to have title extended further than the 194 years covered by
the present application. I was unaware that any educated person in this
country, particularly those working in the property area, would not know
that Louisiana was purchased, by the U.S., from France in 1803, the year of
origin identified in our application. For the edification of uninformed FHA
bureaucrats, the title to the land prior to U.S. ownership was obtained from
France, which had acquired it by Right of Conquest from Spain. The land came
into the possession of Spain by Right of Discovery made in the year 1492 by
a sea captain named Christopher Columbus, who had been granted the privilege
of seeking a new route to India by the Spanish monarch, Isabella. The good
queen, Isabella, being a pious woman and almost as careful about titles as
the FHA, took the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she
sold her jewels to finance Columbus’ expedition. Now the Pope, as I’m sure
you may know, is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God,it is
commonly accepted, created this world. Therefore, I believe it is safe to
presume that God also made that part of the world called Louisiana.
God, therefore, would be the owner of origin and His origins date back, to
before the beginning of time, the world as we know it AND the FHA. I hope
you find God’s original claim to be satisfactory. Now, may we have our damn
loan?”
The loan was approved.
Note that the tale has been found as far back as a 1936 Wall Street Journal article, though the reported target was a buyer, not FHA (which didn't come into existence until much later). But it's still funny to contemplate a title search back to the Ultimate Sovereign.
You gotta turn your pop up blocker off. That’s the secret.
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