Idk. I took one a few years back and I don't remember a fee.Where are they? When do they offer them?
I think the PD put it on for the citizens.
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Idk. I took one a few years back and I don't remember a fee.Where are they? When do they offer them?
No I won’t block you for an honest response. It really mirrors the typical OSA attitude. You’re beheading the messenger. Without training I am not as effective as an EMT, or Health care assistant as you are at something you have never been trained to do. Snyde, snippy remarks only prove that there are those on this site that would argue with a brick. Like I said before, I am perfectly willing to do what I have to do keep my students safe, and alive of needs be. But I’m not a doctor. I’m not an EMT. I’m not a school nurse. My efforts would be of very little consequence to one the has just had a bullet rip through their little body. Doesn't mean I wouldn’t try. Ohhhh and I will enjoy my summer break. Thank you.You were the one claiming the "not a physician" position. You may feel free to block me for offending you by drawing a logical conclusion and giving it a plain label. Before you go, I will note your positive actions and attitude in finding a cost-effective solution. Meanwhile, have a fine summer!
Yes but this makes perfect sense. It is logical. It is well thought out. The OKSDE would never consider it because it would be too effective. Ohhh and the trolls will be along in a minute to argue wit your honest response.As a retired po po let me give you my opinion. First of all, the whole problem isn't a gun problem or a school security problem. It is a cultural problem.
There have been guns in and around schools for all of history, but shooting elementary kids is a recent phenomena. Our culture of zero shame and zero stigma of abhorrent behavior leads to all the weird ******** that is going on right now, to include the mass shootings. Tolerate immoral crap and you get trash people doing trash activities.
Having said all of that, having school resource officers in every school is a huge waste of resources. Most schools don't need them and the SRO's tend to end up being the lazy, lame or worthless officer that gets stuck there because it keeps them away from everyone else. The Parklane officer is a perfect example of this.
The best way to be able to react to these events is to have teacher armed if they choose and to make it a local police policy to drop in on schools when an opportunity exists for a few minutes, rather than keep an officer sitting on his ass all day there doing nothing.
I get it, and I agree. We actually almost all do that, and I'm thinking more along the lines that we aren't communicating as effectively as if we were in person. Pecking out responses tend to be very blunt, cold, and snide...I'm as guilty of it as the next guy. Sometimes I really mean it, but in this conversation, if it came off like that, it wasn't meant that way.No I won’t block you for an honest response. It really mirrors the typical OSA attitude. You’re beheading the messenger. Without training I am not as effective as an EMT, or Health care assistant as you are at something you have never been trained to do. Snyde, snippy remarks only prove that there are those on this site that would argue with a brick. Like I said before, I am perfectly willing to do what I have to do keep my students safe, and alive of needs be. But I’m not a doctor. I’m not an EMT. I’m not a school nurse. My efforts would be of very little consequence to one the has just had a bullet rip through their little body. Doesn't mean I wouldn’t try. Ohhhh and I will enjoy my summer break. Thank you.
we aren't communicating as effectively as if we were in person. Pecking out responses tend to be very blunt, cold, and snide...I'm as guilty of it as the next guy. Sometimes I really mean it, but in this conversation, if it came off like that, it wasn't meant that way.
On the list. Going to have to do something about that.she's pretty much a tree hugger
I trust the positive intent of HoneyBadger and very much appreciate her comment. I know you are being honest and willing to go to the mat for our children that are in your care and I appreciate you.Excellent and well-informed response. Shortly before my retirement from Tulsa Technology Center in early 2020, a "Stop the Bleed" class was taught by a Tulsa County deputy who is an on-campus LEO contracted by Tulsa Tech with the TCSO. It was a well-done class and very informative about the equipment in the kits with specific practice on proper usage for penetrating wounds. I'm a former EMT from way back so I was interested to see how the skills were taught and what the kits contained. Every emergency cabinet with a Automatic Emergency Defibrillator now also has a Stop the Bleed kit. It is the height of living in denial, combined with a "not my job, man" attitude, to avoid being a responsible human being.
I will research free programs if budgets are the issue. I know they are out there. I think it is imperative that schools are ready and trained to respond and are equipped to do so. I am thinking at a minimum, blowout kits that include torniquets, hemostatic dressings, ACE wraps, pressure bandages, and gauze for packing, and of course, duck tape. Basically an IFAK with some supplemental items to restore the airway and augment breathing. I went through the combat lifesaver course when I was with 7th ID(L) on an LRSD team (PSC3 Radioman) and also certified as an EMT about 20 years ago and have taken some supplemental training to update skills about four years ago. Much has changed since I retired from the army and I am impressed with current standards.I'll ping a couple buddies of mine that are doing civilian courses and see what they can do or if they have POCs here.
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