Would you describe that Murray course as "hands on". From reading the College website curriculum seems very "classroom"
I worked with a guy at H&H who went thru their program -- dammit I can see his face but cannot remember his name to save my soul. If Robert or Chris couldn't work on my guns, I trusted him. None of the other yahoos back there got to even look in my direction. I dunno who's there now so none of this counts. They may be really good. Or really not. I have no idea so this post is not to reflect on the gunsmith counter in present context in any way.