The first victim of NDAA

[ez bake]

I pointed out the PC's comment as a counterpoint to all of the "He's fine! He'd never hurt a fly" comments in the article.

So where is the line between his 1A rights and protecting society? He's on a psych hold, and those aren't that unusual. Yes, psych holds have been abused. Doesn't mean they don't have merit. Kind of like doctors. Medical misadventures kill 100,000 people a year, but we still let people practice medicine.

I'm not saying I'm certain this was all justified. But without being able to see his wall, and see the private group he was a part of, I can't judge, and neither can anyone here. Without being privy to what was discussed with the intake person, we can't judge. At this point, we have to believe the process is working as it's supposed to. Someone saw something that concerned them, and notified authorities, who are investigating it.

How else should it have been handled?

True, we cannot judge, but we can (and should) question. We don't have to believe the process is working as it's supposed to - it often times is not (and appears to be getting worse lately). There's nothing wrong with someone reporting him and there's nothing wrong with him being questioned and/or investigated. The Psych hold appears to be a bit much based on what we know (again, there could be a lot more), but the fact that all of this occurred over song lyrics is what seems ridiculous to me. I would love to know what was found that indicated the need for a Psych hold (and like has been stated, I would love to know if he was searched without consent / a warrant).

I do see the other side to it though, actions need to be taken to prevent crimes like Columbine / Aurora (especially when there is probable cause for concern before hand and things are reported by fellow citizens), but that's a Grey area that is seriously scary to me.

 

[10Seconds]

This situation is outrageous. The problem with this type of hold or detention of someone is that there is no protection against it. The gov decides to detain you and has their own people approve the need for it. You are locked up but since not charged with a crime, no constitutional protections kick in.

There is virtually no limit on what they could detain people for under such a system. And as a bonus, one they get you in an institution, then they can take yours guns too.

 

[SiGArmed]

Moral(s) of the story?

Don't trust your government
Delete your facebook account

This. But then..http://mashable.com/2012/08/07/no-facebook-psychopath/

 

[loudshirt]

And he's a licensed mental health professional?

No, however depending on his job in the military his Platoon Commander spent more time in and out of stress with that person than most other people. When you go out to the field, or to Iraq and Afghanistan you talk to a lot of people about a lot of things you would not talk about when you go out to eat at Chili's. Now if could just be a case of jumping on the bandwagon too. I have spent the majority of my adult life in the military and his Platoon Commander probably knows way more than most people about this young man and his mental state.

 

[loudshirt]

This. But then..http://mashable.com/2012/08/07/no-facebook-psychopath/

Just call me abnormal

 

[Street Rat]

This situation is outrageous. The problem with this type of hold or detention of someone is that there is no protection against it. The gov decides to detain you and has their own people approve the need for it. You are locked up but since not charged with a crime, no constitutional protections kick in.

There is virtually no limit on what they could detain people for under such a system. And as a bonus, one they get you in an institution, then they can take yours guns too.

I'll bet that our current administration is watching how this plays out to see what kind of backlash they will see when they start holding people without any trial for suspected terrorism.

 

[berettaman]

This is so wrong/disturbing on every level.But you get what you vote for or elections have consequences
You elect a marxist,you get a marxist's administrational system.

 

[Glocktogo]

This. But then..http://mashable.com/2012/08/07/no-facebook-psychopath/

The article source and quoted commentary are from Europe. I'd hope that this wrong headed thought process doesn't become prevalent over here. I think it's hilarious that in order to comment on the article, you have to log into either Facebook or Twitter.

FWIW, I've had a Facebook account for several years. I have no friends and no "likes". When I recieve a friend request, I pause and consider whether it will cause the person sending it any angst when I simply let it sit there in limbo, unanswered, forever.

 

[BikerHT]

Moral(s) of the story?

Don't trust your government
Delete your facebook account

^^^^This.

No, however depending on his job in the military his Platoon Commander spent more time in and out of stress with that person than most other people. When you go out to the field, or to Iraq and Afghanistan you talk to a lot of people about a lot of things you would not talk about when you go out to eat at Chili's. Now if could just be a case of jumping on the bandwagon too. I have spent the majority of my adult life in the military and his Platoon Commander probably knows way more than most people about this young man and his mental state.

A lot of truth here. Besides, they even prove this in movies...we've all seen Rambo. His CO knew all about him.

 

[cjjtulsa]

This is so wrong/disturbing on every level.But you get what you vote for or elections have consequences
You elect a marxist,you get a marxist's administrational system.

Sorry, man, but been has it right: it's all a part of the plan. No matter who you elect, this is the direction we're headed. They're all controlled by the same entity.