This administration's Green policies and how they affect Oil/Nat-Gas/Coal...
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Define.
The links in my post defined it quite well for our context.
I think the free market is working and coal is feeling the crunch, kinda like what Ridge is saying.
I seen on cnn's news ticker that the US is about to become the largest exporter of oil soon.
There is a bright side for the GOP if we move away from coal. All those Union miners will be out of work and prolly wont vote for Obama next time. Of course they will then go on the gov teet, so maybe its a wash.
I seen on cnn's news ticker that the US is about to become the largest exporter of oil soon.
There is a bright side for the GOP if we move away from coal. All those Union miners will be out of work and prolly wont vote for Obama next time. Of course they will then go on the gov teet, so maybe its a wash.
Here is a pretty balanced piece on it with this being the key bit.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-17/is-obama-really-waging-a-war-on-coal-.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-17/is-obama-really-waging-a-war-on-coal-.html
Coal....He wants to change regulations for coal plants that will make it almost impossible to meet emission limits.
Example: Install expensive air scrubbers to meet the limits or stop production or pay a "pollution" tax-called : credits...meaning the increased expensive will go to the consumer. Yet, install unprofitable air turbines?? Not just Obama...more of an EPA regulation.
EPA: Run by Lisa Jackson who was appointed by Obama. More and more regulation on the oil and gas industry, which means costly restrictions. Mobile emissions(cars) are not meeting ozone standards, in turn gas pumps will have the vapor recovery nozzle....if ozone standards are not met here in Oklahoma...get ready...ALL gasoline will have at least 10 percent ethonol...NO MORE "real" gas stations.
So, here in Okie land...restrict the oil companies and don't even inspect cars?? Yet, its coming. Just like Houston....when your pulled over by the cops...they can check for moving violations and air violations....they stick an air monitor up your tailpipe...out of compliance=fine.
I know he/EPA tried to kill the keystone pipeline, maybe it has passed....maybe it hasn't...we still have four more years....wait and see.
I know he/EPA wants to attack farmers...dust tax, gas tax, production tax.
Trust me, even before Obama, what the EPA tried to do in Houston might become a reality....enforcement is another question.
Houston several years ago tired to limit when you mowed you grass(early morning/late at night), truckers could not idle their trucks over 30 minutes when parked, there were others...I can't remember right now. All in the name of clean air.
I want a healthy environment but I don't want to destroy industry. What got me about Houston...restrict Houston with air regulations and let Mexico pollute the land, Gulf, and air...then blow over to the U.S. side and do nothing but grin.
The EPA can restrict business "environmentally" to the point...they move to Mexico. Look at Fender guitars in California, the American made ones are made in America, shipped to Mexico, sprayed painted and stained, laquered, then shipped back to the U.S. for assembly.
I really can't state anymore without going into detail.....at least not yet....I don't want to overstep my bounds and get into trouble. Yes, everyone knows that I'm an Environmental Scientist. I will state this: Know your State and Federal Representatives phone numbers and emails. As always, when taxes and restrictions are imposed they are all but impossible to get rid of. When a company moves, closes, or lays off people....what does it take to return to normal??
In parting, keep your eyes and ears open on Obama but more on the EPA. They have become as powerful as the IRS and when they enact a rule or restriction who has the resources to fight them? Listen to business people, oil companies, farmers and others controlled and regulated by the EPA....what they are starting to say is no joke. I'm not a conspiracy, nut-job, whack-o type person but future "restrictions" must be presented to our State and Federal leaders attention...if it matters anymore.
All I can say, I may have said to much, I try to keep my mouth closed on the internet.
Cohiba
Example: Install expensive air scrubbers to meet the limits or stop production or pay a "pollution" tax-called : credits...meaning the increased expensive will go to the consumer. Yet, install unprofitable air turbines?? Not just Obama...more of an EPA regulation.
EPA: Run by Lisa Jackson who was appointed by Obama. More and more regulation on the oil and gas industry, which means costly restrictions. Mobile emissions(cars) are not meeting ozone standards, in turn gas pumps will have the vapor recovery nozzle....if ozone standards are not met here in Oklahoma...get ready...ALL gasoline will have at least 10 percent ethonol...NO MORE "real" gas stations.
So, here in Okie land...restrict the oil companies and don't even inspect cars?? Yet, its coming. Just like Houston....when your pulled over by the cops...they can check for moving violations and air violations....they stick an air monitor up your tailpipe...out of compliance=fine.
I know he/EPA tried to kill the keystone pipeline, maybe it has passed....maybe it hasn't...we still have four more years....wait and see.
I know he/EPA wants to attack farmers...dust tax, gas tax, production tax.
Trust me, even before Obama, what the EPA tried to do in Houston might become a reality....enforcement is another question.
Houston several years ago tired to limit when you mowed you grass(early morning/late at night), truckers could not idle their trucks over 30 minutes when parked, there were others...I can't remember right now. All in the name of clean air.
I want a healthy environment but I don't want to destroy industry. What got me about Houston...restrict Houston with air regulations and let Mexico pollute the land, Gulf, and air...then blow over to the U.S. side and do nothing but grin.
The EPA can restrict business "environmentally" to the point...they move to Mexico. Look at Fender guitars in California, the American made ones are made in America, shipped to Mexico, sprayed painted and stained, laquered, then shipped back to the U.S. for assembly.
I really can't state anymore without going into detail.....at least not yet....I don't want to overstep my bounds and get into trouble. Yes, everyone knows that I'm an Environmental Scientist. I will state this: Know your State and Federal Representatives phone numbers and emails. As always, when taxes and restrictions are imposed they are all but impossible to get rid of. When a company moves, closes, or lays off people....what does it take to return to normal??
In parting, keep your eyes and ears open on Obama but more on the EPA. They have become as powerful as the IRS and when they enact a rule or restriction who has the resources to fight them? Listen to business people, oil companies, farmers and others controlled and regulated by the EPA....what they are starting to say is no joke. I'm not a conspiracy, nut-job, whack-o type person but future "restrictions" must be presented to our State and Federal leaders attention...if it matters anymore.
All I can say, I may have said to much, I try to keep my mouth closed on the internet.
Cohiba
Not sure if stupid, or trolling... Troll on my friend.
I guess I am perplexed. Is not this about the time when most all of America started being prosperous and growing. People were able to work 8 hours a day/40/week and live decently. Most everyone had a job and provided for their family without handouts, worked their way up in the workforce, bought houses, nicer cars, started buying toys, some started their own businesses and employed others?
I guess none of that matters and we should make sure it does not happen again because --- a few people got rich in the process of helping everyone else prosper. What an evil thing to let happen.
Reminds me of a comment from a taxi driver I talked with one time as we were driving by a huge empty building at an airport. He told me he used to be union aircraft mechanic in that building and they went out on strike until his employer went bankrupt and closed the business --- "We showed them SOB's the union had power" I did not ask him how much money he makes now, driving a cab.
It's hard to see but the word "theory" and " need to study" are links if you click on them.
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