This administration's Green policies and how they affect Oil/Nat-Gas/Coal...

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2$ and change at the wellhead, folks. I was under $2 this past spring. I hope we burn a metric shitload of the stuff, get the prices back UP to a reasonable level, and start developing infrastructure so it's a viable fuel for highway vehicles. Actually it would make more sense to start on the latter now while prices are so low. We need to find every use for NG we can right now.

I want NG prices to triple or quadruple and I want demand to increase.
 
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If the government would back off and let the free market run, we would have the least expensive energy on the planet. We have about 200 years of oil in the ground in America today but not a new refinery in 40 years to use it.

Are you saying more domestic oil production would have drastic impacts on crude/gasoline prices?
 

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I guess I am perplexed. Is not this about the time when most all of America started being prosperous and growing. People were able to work 8 hours a day/40/week and live decently. Most everyone had a job and provided for their family without handouts, worked their way up in the workforce, bought houses, nicer cars, started buying toys, some started their own businesses and employed others?

I guess none of that matters and we should make sure it does not happen again because --- a few people got rich in the process of helping everyone else prosper. What an evil thing to let happen.

Reminds me of a comment from a taxi driver I talked with one time as we were driving by a huge empty building at an airport. He told me he used to be union aircraft mechanic in that building and they went out on strike until his employer went bankrupt and closed the business --- "We showed them SOB's the union had power" I did not ask him how much money he makes now, driving a cab.

if your perplexed, maybe you think monopolies were good for America? The boom started after Teddy broke up the monopolies. Not more strangle hold by large tycoons allowed the free market to move.
 

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According to a student I had in class, that is a geologist for a "big oil" company, we are producing record amounts of domestic oil.

His words:

"We're producing so much oil that gas will reach $50/barrel soon, the economy will soar, and the bastard socialist will look like a gawd dammed f**king hero".


He also said gas prices will not go down though until after the oil companies recoup "expenditures". Whatever that means :anyone:

Oh yeah, he also said it was "pure American oil industry ingenuity" that is responsible for this alleged future oil surplus.
 

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Yes, I'm quite sure no one has ever turned in a paper with the BP Statistical Review cited as a source. It's such a fringe publication that receives no review or analysis at any point and is generally thought to be compiled by a chicken pecking at a 10-key somewhere.

Any paper, publication, book, or objective fact ever cited or linked to on Wikipedia immediately becomes unusable. This is called the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_by_Association_Law


im jes sayin ok... calm yerself. and yeah, I can't take yer wiki association seriously because you cited wiki as the source..... :wink2:
 
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EZ,

If you are truly serious, I would direct you to www.regulations.gov

I just spent about 2 minutes on there. Go there and you can "filter down". I filtered down to:

Agency = EPA
Document type check boxes = "Rule" and "Notice" (all other documents were excluded)
Category = "Agriculture, Environment and Public lands" (all other categories were excluded)

I then did a single word search within this criteria on the word "Coal" and further restricted it to the years of the Obama administration. It came up with 227 results. I was going to pick out a juicy one and post but each of them appear to be too long to post and I wasn't going to bog down your thread. This web site will make your head explode. No rational human being can justify even 1/10 of the regulations that are imposed on us and they are all listed right here on this site. I'd sure like to see the server farm that all of these are on. This website is a perfect example of why I say our government is broken beyond repair. Go there and read some. If you don't leave there pissed you aren't rational and should immediately check yourself in for a mental evaluation.

Edit to add: Remember this is only coal. I'm sure if you added oil, natural gas, gasoline, diesel you would get well over 1000 regs.
 

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According to a student I had in class, that is a geologist for a "big oil" company, we are producing record amounts of domestic oil.

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He also said gas prices will not go down though until after the oil companies recoup "expenditures". Whatever that means :anyone:

Oh yeah, he also said it was "pure American oil industry ingenuity" that is responsible for this alleged future oil surplus.

I really have a hard time believing a geologist for an oil company would not have a basic working knowledge of the oil market. Is there a possibility you misheard "janitor at a bar" as "geologist for an oil company"?
 

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I really have a hard time believing a geologist for an oil company would not have a basic working knowledge of the oil market. Is there a possibility you misheard "janitor at a bar" as "geologist for an oil company"?

He could have been a janitor, what reason would I have not to believe him? I know I do not have a basic working knowledge of the oil market to know any different.

What in my quote leads you to believe he was full of it?
 

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He could have been a janitor, why would I have a reason not to believe him? I know I do not have a basic working knowledge of the oil market to know any different.

What in my quote leads you to believe he was full of it?

Just what I said - a geologist for an oil company usually has a pretty good idea how the oil market works. I know geologists for oil companies and none of them would say something that stupid unless they were being sarcastic. I'd like to know who he works for and what his position is.
 

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