This Terror Expert is Right On!!

[rhart]

I wonder if former Delta operators like Kyle Lamb or Larry Vickers would be accused of selling something if they appeared on Fox news by invitation and mentioned their website? OK, at least one of them would. Everybody's got to make a living, but that doesn't mean their information should be devalued because of it. You are watching an advertisement every time you watch a youtube training video from a real expert.

Experts like these help promote gun ownership and carry laws and the more that promote our gun rights (even if they all say basically the same thing) the more converts that can be won (or de-brainwashed).

The current state of affairs can be beneficial to us in promoting our cause. You can bet the anti-gunners will be spinning things in a completely opposite way. I think we can count on Liberals/statists trying to use any crisis to try to take our guns from us so that we end up like Europe - defenseless against the onslaught of Muslim invaders/refugees who beat citizens, rape women and 7 year old girls and boast that they are taking over countries by having babies at a much higher rate. Europe is basically unarmed and their leaders tell them that if they don't like all the refugees being brought in that they should leave their own country.

Once they get our guns you will see a greatly accelerated influx of non-Christian immigrants and we will suddenly become minorities in our own country. Yes, the current influx of Latin immigrants are predominately Catholic, but their purpose is to provide votes to take away our guns so the Muslim invasion can really get underway with no one to stop them.

Google "the video liberals don't want you to see on Muslim immigrants" and you will see what has really been happening to Europe (their mainstream media is worse than ours - never thought I'd say that) and what is in store for us if we don't stop it (not sure voting will work since I don't believe the last election or the previous one were legit).

Sorry for the rant, but the more I learn the more I'm starting to get passionate about things...

 

[twoguns?]

OK it seems like a fine establishment for training .mil and "some civilians"
Where do the average citizens being armed and vigilant get their training?
Certainly not from some .mil training academy.
Most of the training we can get is watered down or extremely expensive
Some just dont have the time or money to join such endeavors, Life's still happening, as it were
It seems like he's trying to sell the idea that America is next on the list, I believe that most know that and are preparing as they can
As for depending on the .mil or the Police to protect us, they'll be busy protecting the .gov's assetts, we'll be on our own
Good for those that have the availability of/for the terriorist training, I guess we'll have to follow their lead
Lead well my Brothers we'll be watching/learning
Thank You

 

[SMS]

So did you disagree with any of his advice? If so, why? What would you have said differently on the subject in a 4 minute interview? Regardless, if someone somewhere has already said it, does that mean no one else should say it?

As for it being a commercial, I heard Megyn list his curriculum vitae during his introduction, but never heard him mention his website or the product he's selling? Did you hear something I didn't, or is he just a terrible salesman? I know he mentioned the IRA and ISIS, was he selling them?

Seriously, I'd like to know why you're being so dismissive of him. Has he wronged you in some way?

Not dismissive of him as much as pointing out he's just parroting common sense information and pimping his business in the guise of "news and information". Why does he have to have "wronged me in some way" for me to point it out?

I don't blame him for making a buck, but sorry if I'm not all giddy and lapping up up his shtick.

 

[rhart]

My take on the interview was that he was trying to sell everyone on "situational awareness" and getting training as responsible concealed carriers. This guy's business obviously doesn't cater to everyday folks, but to government agencies and large corporations.
Most who frequent this and similar forums buy into being prepared and having situational awareness and probably feel they have decent situational awareness. I would say that most people in the US are not even minimally prepared to respond to a terrorist situation and totally lack an appreciable level of situational awareness most, if not all, of the time.
Getting a fair level of training does not necessarily require taking an expensive tactical class - read books, watch training videos, watch documentaries on terrorist attacks and military operations, etc - the internet is a wealth of information. Yes, it is nice to be "trained" in person by subject matter experts to help ingrain lessons, but it is not absolutely necessary to achieve a reasonable level of competence IMHO.
I have taken a couple of classes and I did learn a couple of tricks I didn't know at the time, but the classes were somewhat disappointing in that most of the techniques I was familiar with from my reading and watching training vids. The best part about the training was the instructor forced us to actually practice the drills, but if one is disciplined and practices drills observed in print or video a similar result can be obtained. Taking a class is not going to make the average person an expert - that comes from continually practicing what you learn in class thereafter. Also, a reasonable level of competence can be had from regularly participating in combat related sports like IPSC, IDPA, Steel Challenge, etc. The more matches one attends the more varied the shooting scenarios experienced. I believe every one should take classes if they can afford it, but if you can't then take advantage of the free material available on the internet.
I would like to see local experts offer free seminars on situational awareness and surviving/dealing with terrorist and active shooter scenarios. They should view it not only as a community service, but also as a sort of infomercial that will garner them students in the future if they can impress with their material. If I was one of these experts that is what I would do. It would also be a great public relations strategy that might swing some borderline anti-gunners to our way of thinking about being armed citizens. And it just might make America a little safer...

Edited to format paragraphs

 

[mugsy]

OK it seems like a fine establishment for training .mil and "some civilians"
Where do the average citizens being armed and vigilant get their training?
Certainly not from some .mil training academy.
Most of the training we can get is watered down or extremely expensive
Some just dont have the time or money to join such endeavors, Life's still happening, as it were
It seems like he's trying to sell the idea that America is next on the list, I believe that most know that and are preparing as they can
As for depending on the .mil or the Police to protect us, they'll be busy protecting the .gov's assetts, we'll be on our own
Good for those that have the availability of/for the terriorist training, I guess we'll have to follow their lead
Lead well my Brothers we'll be watching/learning
Thank You

Twoguns,

I don't disagree with you that the public would be better off if more citizens were armed and trained in basic self-defense (and if there was some type of at least minimal militia training for all citizens of the appropriate age and not otherwise prevented by law from bearing arms) BUT that wasn't the discussion. It was implied when Dr. Gorka expressed his view that US/European approaches to combating terrorism in their homelands was flawed by relying too much on professional military/police. But neither he nor the interviewer went further with that discussion.

His mention of "his" (MCU website) was in relation to listeners being able to look for themselves to read what ISIS itself says is their intent. Somehow that mention got turned into or implied to be a sales pitch and THAT is what this little sub-discussion is addressing. As to more training for the wider public - I am with you brother not against you.

 

[SMS]

Absolutely, more training is better for sure. Maybe more folks will actually pursue it now.

 

[Glocktogo]

Not dismissive of him as much as pointing out he's just parroting common sense information and pimping his business in the guise of "news and information". Why does he have to have "wronged me in some way" for me to point it out?

I don't blame him for making a buck, but sorry if I'm not all giddy and lapping up up his shtick.

Because I don't exactly see you making any sort of positive impact, but you have plenty of time to do whatever it is you're doing to demean the efforts of others. And again, point out what he's selling and where he mentioned it? You can't because it didn't happen. Simply put, your post was neither helpful nor informative.

 

[Jwryan84]

My take on the interview was that he was trying to sell everyone on "situational awareness" and getting training as responsible concealed carriers. This guy's business obviously doesn't cater to everyday folks, but to government agencies and large corporations. Most who frequent this and similar forums buy into being prepared and having situational awareness and probably feel they have decent situational awareness. I would say that most people in the US are not even minimally prepared to respond to a terrorist situation and totally lack an appreciable level of situational awareness most, if not all, of the time. Getting a fair level of training does not necessarily require taking an expensive tactical class - read books, watch training videos, watch documentaries on terrorist attacks and military operations, etc - the internet is a wealth of information. Yes, it is nice to be "trained" in person by subject matter experts to help ingrain lessons, but it is not absolutely necessary to achieve a reasonable level of competence IMHO. I have taken a couple of classes and I did learn a couple of tricks I didn't know at the time, but the classes were somewhat disappointing in that most of the techniques I was familiar with from my reading and watching training vids. The best part about the training was the instructor forced us to actually practice the drills, but if one is disciplined and practices drills observed in print or video a similar result can be obtained. Taking a class is not going to make the average person an expert - that comes from continually practicing what you learn in class thereafter. Also, a reasonable level of competence can be had from regularly participating in combat related sports like IPSC, IDPA, Steel Challenge, etc. The more matches one attends the more varied the shooting scenarios experienced. I believe every one should take classes if they can afford it, but if you can't then take advantage of the free material available on the internet.
I would like to see local experts offer free seminars on situational awareness and surviving/dealing with terrorist and active shooter scenarios. They should view it not only as a community service, but also as a sort of infomercial that will garner them students in the future if they can impress with their material. If I was one of these experts that is what I would do. It would also be a great public relations strategy that might swing some borderline anti-gunners to our way of thinking about being armed citizens. And it just might make America a little safer...

Paragraphs are your friend

 

[twoguns?]

I became "familar" with both the webpage "Marine Corps University" and the magazine "Dabiq"...Thanks for the link
I guess the idea that we're combating an enemy that just wants to kill everyone, or die in the process, is a new concept
The only way to win a conflict like that would be to exterminate them all, as theres no way to compromise with them
Maybe the "normal" person has a hard time believing that some entity wants to kill them, nothing else will be enough, but I've never been in the realm of "normal"
Thanks for the information, I'll continue becoming "familar"

 

[rhart]

Paragraphs are your friend

You're right. I reworked it. Hope it's acceptable now - been 11 years since English comp.