Tulsa homeowner shoots man outside home.

[conditionzero]

If things happened the way the article claims, it was Not the right way to handle. He is lucky he did not kill the guy. If he had, he would rightly be facing murder charges.

I bet it is worse now, attempted murder and the victim is alive to tell their side of the story.

 

[joegrizzy]

I bet it is worse now, attempted murder and the victim is alive to tell their side of the story.

yep let's just hope he was an illegal so he can get a better life in the form of taxpayer money.

 

[turkeyrun]

Much different in Texas


A man, who had his car stolen from his apartment a month earlier, was awakened by his remote alarm @5:30 am.

He looked out his bedroom window and seen a man breaking into his his new car.
He took the .30-06 sitting beside his bed, opened his window and shot the man dead, without ever getting out of bed.

He called police and waited in his apartment.

Houston police said the their was well known and had a long list of convictions.
There had been many car thefts in the area and they suspected thefts would be going down.

No charges were filed.

The way it should be!

 

[Seadog]

Much different in Texas


A man, who had his car stolen from his apartment a month earlier, was awakened by his remote alarm @5:30 am.

He looked out his bedroom window and seen a man breaking into his his new car.
He took the .30-06 sitting beside his bed, opened his window and shot the man dead, without ever getting out of bed.

He called police and waited in his apartment.

Houston police said the their was well known and had a long list of convictions.
There had been many car thefts in the area and they suspected thefts would be going down.

No charges were filed.

The way it should be!

It be nice if Oklahoma change their laws to reflect like Texas.

 

[crapsguy]

Obviously the guy made a bad decision and went against fairly common knowledge most folks in the 2A community all know… like: don’t chase a guy down over property theft and shoot him

At the same time though, thieves do need to be more afraid. More thieves do need to be shot! The way the thief apparently challenged him and tried to call his bluff, then the guy wound up shooting him. It is actually hilarious to me

I think the guy who shot did wrong - but will walk away ok -- what will save him is he shot the man in the front [vs back running away] as he was coming at him and can claim he expected the thief to take his weapon and use it on him - if the DA believes the thief said "you won't shoot me" and proceeded toward the man with the gun he will not be charged JMO

 

[trekrok]

Roland said he would shoot him, and when the giant man lunged took a step forward and attempted to grab his gun, Roland said he shot him in the stomach. They were approximately 3 feet away from each other.

Fixed it for him..

 

[TedKennedy]

Via the TPD FB page https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...6EWzJNwQhn8SgX6E8ppdbvQRsl&id=100064589030710

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SHOOTING IN SOUTH TULSA -- Homeowner arrested for shooting a fleeing burglary suspect.

On 11/14/2022 around 3:00 a.m., Officers were called out to a shooting at a home near 81st and Harvard.

The caller, David Roland, said he shot a man who he claimed was breaking into his house. When Officers arrived, they found the shooting victim lying in the grass. The shooting victim had a gunshot wound to the stomach and was taken to the hospital.

Roland later told Detectives that he was preparing for bed when he heard a car driving down the street. Roland said he assumed it was a burglar and stated no one drives through the neighborhood at that time unless it's a thief.

Roland said he observed a silver car park around the corner and someone get out.

Roland said he walked out of his house with a flashlight, a gun. and a cell phone, but did not call 911 or the non-emergency number. Roland said he saw a man, run from his driveway carrying items. Roland said he yelled at the man to stop, but the man instead ran to his vehicle 50 yards away.

Roland said he chased after the man and when he got to the car, Roland said he pointed his flashlight and his gun at him and told him to show him his hands.

Roland said he stepped in front of the vehicle with his gun still pointed at the man and continued to demand to see his hands. The man got out of the vehicle and stated "You won't shoot me."

Roland said he would shoot him, and when the man took a step forward, Roland said he shot him in the stomach. They were approximately 3 feet away from each other.

Detectives at this time believe the shooting victim did not actually steal anything from Roland, but did break into a car next door.

Detectives questioned David Roland, and he was arrested for Assault with a Deadly Weapon.

The shooting victim was taken to the hospital and is expected to be okay. The shooting victim is known to police, and will be arrested for burglary when he is released.

We understand that this incident will spark many conversations about the use of firearms in similar situations and what is legally allowed.

The Tulsa Police Department presented the evidence and facts of the case to the Tulsa County District Attorneys Office and it was determined that Roland discharged his firearm illegally.

We cannot provide legal advice on which situation may or may not fall under the State Statutes, please refer to this link which has more information:

Physical or Deadly Force Against Intruder

www.oscn.net

This is an arrest, not a conviction.

#TulsaPolice

Let's play what if for a minute....

What if the homeowner was a cop? Would he be justified in shooting the guy when he took an aggressive posture, refused to show his hands and made furtive movements as he lunged at the officer?

 

[Shoot Summ]

I think the guy who shot did wrong - but will walk away ok -- what will save him is he shot the man in the front [vs back running away] as he was coming at him and can claim he expected the thief to take his weapon and use it on him - if the DA believes the thief said "you won't shoot me" and proceeded toward the man with the gun he will not be charged JMO

He wont walk away OK, the legal fees will probably break him.

 

[Gadsden]

He wont walk away OK, the legal fees will probably break him.

The legal fees to fight criminal charges and the inevitable civil suit he'll be facing.

 

[trekrok]

This guy, like Ersland, should have lawyered up immediately and remained silent. Not an easy thing in the moment though, I'm sure.