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Agree. Vo-Techs are probably more likely to help you find a job than college.

This. Several programs' funding is tied to placement rates, and some even check to see if a former.student is still in the industry up to two years later.


For what its worth, the value of a college degree varies greatly depending on your industry. The only way I would go back (I'm a 1 semester dropout) would be if the degree was legally required.

I was always told that if I wanted to make any money in life, I had to get a degree. My wife has a four year degree and is a senior analyst in the oil field. I'm a web developer and make more. In fact, I know for certain that I make more than the average developer with a degree. My point is its not about the piece of paper, but about how well you market your skills, how you position yourself, and your overall determination to succeed. Fortunately, when people tell me I can't do something, that just encourages me to prove them wrong. By the way, in some fields a degree might be a sign that you won't think outside the box.

I'd also say that out of the top 10 earners I know, 3 have a degree and either lawyers or in finance.

Whatever you do, don't rack up a ton of student loans. The grants and subsidized student loans are a large reason for the massive tuition increases - its guaranteed money. But I know several people who've racked up $40-50K for a public 4 year degree and they rarely get a job that offsets that. And don't be that guy who spends $100K+ on a law degree only to decide they want to be a public advocate for $35K/yr...
 
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Everyone has mad some valid points both for and against. While I agree that college is not for everyone, in order to give yourself the best possible advantage in today's world you do need some type of continuing education. Doesn't matter if it is via Tech, on line or other options that exist. Just sitting around and doing nothing is not really an option today. There is nothing wrong with skilled labor, in fact you can make some damn good money in several of the trades. Just was not an option for me any longer, as I am now physically disabled.
 

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Like anything, college is what you make it. You can choose to learn or just go through the motions for the degree. A wise man once told me, a degree only shows an employer that will you 1) finish what you start and 2) can put up with someone else's crap. I'd stipulate that grad degrees are the same, with the understanding you can figure things out for yourself.

One of my first bosses told me this exact thing, after he went back to college at the age of 45 and got a Engineering Physics degree.
 

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Whatever you do, don't rack up a ton of student loans. The grants and subsidized student loans are a large reason for the massive tuition increases - its guaranteed money. But I know several people who've racked up $40-50K for a public 4 year degree and they rarely get a job that offsets that. And don't be that guy who spends $100K+ on a law degree only to decide they want to be a public advocate for $35K/yr...

This. I'm about $40k in the hole for masters and bachelors combined, and only make about $50k a year now. Not too bad, but still.

It really depends on what you want. If all you care about is making a lot of money, there's plenty you can do without going to college. Hell, I know a guy who got a government job in IT based on his veteran's preference, and parlayed that into a job at OGE making twice what I do, with no formal education.

For me, I started out with a CS degree, and decided I liked hardware better, so I went for my masters in ECE. For what I do, a bachelor's is a bare minimum. I wish I made more money, but you couldn't pay me enough to go back into IT.
 

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I went to totally cool college (TCC)and got an associates. I went full time while working andbdid it online. I took 12 hrs a semester and maybe put 2 hours a week into it. I got on with Uncle Sam using vet preference and all internal promotions are based off experience or education. I just got a promotion in September and never even mentioned my degree on the resume.

I have another buddy up there with like 2-3 degrees and always brags about how far it got him. He never likes when I mention we make exactly the same salary.

I still haven even picked up my diploma and those cheap skates won't mail it for me.
 

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My 4 years in college were the longest years of my life.
Once I had to get a job it all went down hill from there until I quit and decided to just work for myself.
Got a lot better after that!
 

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