You boys that simp for Government Run Healthcare..... get on in here....

[BobbyV]

How does the Indian Health Care System work? Can't only those with Native lineage get care in that system? If so, who needs to give it some serious attention?

The Indian Health Service is the Federal agency in charge of managing the Indian Health Care System.

Indian Health Service | Indian Health Service (IHS)

The Indian Health Service (IHS), an agency within the Department of Health and Human Services, is responsible for providing federal health services to American Indians and Alaska Natives. The provision of health services to members of federally-recognized Tribes grew out of the special...

www.ihs.gov

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

I haven't had a lot of experience in the VA system outside of OKC VAMC. I've only been in the system for about 5 years. But from what I have seen, and from what I have experienced, I'll take the VA health care over private insurance/care any day. I'm thoroughly disgusted with what my wife has to go thru to see a doctor. She has BCBS thru a federal retirement program and Medicare. Her wait for care is almost always longer than mine.

She had cataract surgery earlier this year. We had to be at the surgery center at 0630. They prepped her and left her laying in a bed until nearly noon until I got fed up and told the nurse to unhook her because I'd had enough. I let them know I thought this was completely unacceptable. The reason was (allegedly) her doctor was new in this clinic and a more senior doctor had rearranged his surgeries so he could finish early. They took her back to surgery about 5 mins after I had my little fit in the OR. I've also sat with her in her primary care doctor's office for almost 2 hours past her appt time waiting to be seen.

When I go to the VA clinic in Ada or to the OKC VAMC I almost never have to wait past my appt time. I can only recall waiting past my time once, as a matter of fact. That was at my last visit and it was about 20 mins...because the doc had some sort of emergency. But when I did get in the doctor I saw did WAY more than what I was expecting at that appt.

I'm no medical expert but I do know our medical system in this country is a mess. Not really the care...the care and treatment, as a whole, is probably the best in the world. But it's the cost and bureaucracy, thanks to the .gov sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong, that have f***ed it up so bad.

F***ing things up is pretty much par for the course when the .gov gets involved with anything.

 

[turkeyrun]

Well...it really doesn't count. Not all veterans can get health care thru the VA. It depends on your type of discharge, your household income, and a few other factors. There are 8 "Priority Groups" that determine the level of care you're eligible to receive, with Priority 1 being the highest level. Depending on what Priority Group the VA assigns you to will determine what benefits you're eligible to receive, if any. You might also have to agree to make co-pays for your care.

Sounds like it counts, to me.

Goobermint is telling you what your priority is, what level of care you deserve.

The same as what happened to the baby in UK.

 

[John6185]

My major argument against government-run healthcare is, if they cannot run the government, or even run the VA, they have no business running healthcare, PERIOD!

I agree! If the government cannot manage their own financial situations ,how can they tell us how we are to manage anything? They are like finance counsellors that are deeply in debt attempting to counsel us on how to manage our money.

 

[Two Gun Warrior]

What's the most cost effective healthcare insurance plan for Oklahomans this year? I have Medicare A & B and also kept my Federal Blue Cross Blue Shield. The premium on it is $308 monthly. Had over $180k in medical for 2 knee surgeries in 2022 and didn't have a cent out of pocket.

I have medicare A & B and use Humana, It does not cost me anything and they add $100 back to my SS check. The deductables are very small if any. I do not use it a lot because I have the VA for everything, but it is sloooow sometimes.

 

[Chuckie]

No. I'm saying exactly what I said. Not all veterans are eligible for VA health care. If it were the same as single-payer or "socialized" health care all vets would get it.

Well actually, all Honorably discharged veterans are eligible for VA Health Care but whether you have to pay for the care you receive or not depends on things like your 'Priority Group' and/or income level.

Eligibility for VA health care | Veterans Affairs

Find out if you can get VA health care as a Veteran.

www.va.gov

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Yeah... Well, actually, that's why I said not "all" veterans are eligible. Because some aren't. I also explained the priority groups and the possibility of co-pays. And if your combined household income is over a certain level, you may be eligible but you're not gonna get care from the VA.

 

[El Pablo]

I want single payer healthcare, not government run. The current system of run by insurance is a train wreck too.

 

[Glocktogo]

Well actually, all Honorably discharged veterans are eligible for VA Health Care but whether you have to pay for the care you receive or not depends on things like your 'Priority Group' and/or income level.

Eligibility for VA health care | Veterans Affairs

Find out if you can get VA health care as a Veteran.

www.va.gov

Not “are eligible”, “may be eligible”. From your own link:

You may be eligible for VA health care benefits if you served in the active military, naval, or air service and didn’t receive a dishonorable discharge.

I point this out because I have a VA letter that specifically states I’m not eligible for VA healthcare enrollment, despite being a honorably discharged 5 point combat veteran (Priority Group 8, subcategory e).

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

^^ I got that same letter. That's part of what prompted me to file my VA claim.