We didn't notice them as past DOD/govt uses, they had very little direct effect on lives, which is what I meant by us doing without them, and pretty sure you folk know that. When I was in college our mainframe IBM still loaded with punchcards and mainly was used for school admin and billing, same as outside by that time.Unless you’re in your 80s, you don’t remember a time without them, you just remember a time when you didn’t notice them.
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