I'm in the same boat. Think I may have a holster, that is it.
I'm in the same boat. Think I may have a holster, that is it.
I've got a comtac paddle slide holster and 2 mag pouches to fit any small frame Glock I can loan to someone. Fits 26/27 thru 34/35.
Good point. I Carry either a Kahr k40 with 2 extra mags, or Kahr k9 with 2 extra mags. still only gives me about 20 rounds, but better than the 7. When I carry my M&P45 I carry a spare so again 20 rounds.
Geezus! Where do you carry all that gear? I would need a little European man bag.
As to the rules, I understand it would be easier for many people to completely adopt existing rules of IPSC or IDPA.
BUT..........
Scoring:
IPSC scoring is intricate. At the recent OKC Gunclub match, I saw a scoring mistake for me on one stage. I was assessed two misses when I had none. I figured that the scorekeeper marked the two "D's" I had in the "miss" column. I didn't know if it would've moved me up in the overall, so I checked. I had to give myself the correct points and hit factor, then multiply/divide/square-root-of-Pi my percentage to the stage winner in Open class to see how many more points I should've had. Turned out I moved up one place in the overall.
Contrast that to the Winter Classic IDPA match in Arkansas a couple weeks ago. Guy shooting another division asked me what my total time was. I recall thinking, "Hey, that's right! It doesn't matter what division he shot to have a direct comparison!" So I simply added it up and found I edged him out.
I also considered (and haven't totally ruled it out) to use what I've come to call "DRT scoring." Borrowed from the local 3-gun matches, the target is "Dead Right There" or not. A single "A" zone hit would "kill" the target, or two shots anywhere would do the same thing. This would allow the limited capacity shooters (like 5-shot snubbies) to be able to fully engage 3 or even 5 targets before reloading. As it is, after the 5th shot, they still have to put at least one more on the 3rd target, so they stand there trying to reload as fast as possible while the 3rd badguy patiently waits for them to do so. Hardly a practical scenario.
The reason I decided against it is that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to administer "standards" type stages that require a certain number of shots fired and hits per target. Yet, both IPSC and IDPA have two types of scoring: unlimited shots and limited shots. Perhaps we could do the same thing here.
In my quest to make this a practical gun match, DRT scoring has a lot to offer. A good shot with a 5-shot might be able to show the hicap shooters how it's done.
IDPA RULES
As I stated, I have some serious problems with some of these rules. I can't run it as a sanctioned club/match and NOT enforce all of the rules. I can't do it part way. This would undermine the IDPA organization and would not be fair to the shooter. If he didn't have to do "X" here, then didn't do it at the State match and got penalized for it, who's to blame?
USPSA RULES
There will be no "tactical sequence" or "tactical priority" or a requirement to be 100% behind cover during reloads. There will be no tactical reloads, reloads-with-retention or required slide lock reloads.
There will be no Open guns with a compensator or "uncarryable" red dot sight. There will be no race rigs, dropped-offset holsters (unless you're female) big-ass magwells or magazines carried forward of the hip bone.
Belt holsters are required. No pocket carry for guns. No cross-draws, no should rigs. Holsters must cover the triggerguard.
Rules regarding holsters and equipment can be compared to those in the 1911 Single Stack division:
Suitable for everyday use. Race gun type holster
prohibited.
Must carry pistol so that the entire front strap (to the
trigger guard) is at or above the top of the belt.
Female shooters must carry the pistol no lower than
the heel of the butt at the top of the belt.
May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and
must cover the slide up to, ½ below the ejection port
(belt slide Yaqui type holster exempt).
Note that there is no stipulation about "daylight" thru the belt channel or how deep the mag pouches must be, or if said mag pouches are open faced. I don't care if I can see daylight thru the belt channel and I don't care if your mag pouches are 1" deep and are open-faced, but they can't be placed forward of the hip bone.
Also, "suitable for everyday use" shall be interpreted to be capable of casual concealment and applies to both holster and mag pouches.
I welcome your comments and discussion.
BUT..........
Scoring:
IPSC scoring is intricate. At the recent OKC Gunclub match, I saw a scoring mistake for me on one stage. I was assessed two misses when I had none. I figured that the scorekeeper marked the two "D's" I had in the "miss" column. I didn't know if it would've moved me up in the overall, so I checked. I had to give myself the correct points and hit factor, then multiply/divide/square-root-of-Pi my percentage to the stage winner in Open class to see how many more points I should've had. Turned out I moved up one place in the overall.
Contrast that to the Winter Classic IDPA match in Arkansas a couple weeks ago. Guy shooting another division asked me what my total time was. I recall thinking, "Hey, that's right! It doesn't matter what division he shot to have a direct comparison!" So I simply added it up and found I edged him out.
I also considered (and haven't totally ruled it out) to use what I've come to call "DRT scoring." Borrowed from the local 3-gun matches, the target is "Dead Right There" or not. A single "A" zone hit would "kill" the target, or two shots anywhere would do the same thing. This would allow the limited capacity shooters (like 5-shot snubbies) to be able to fully engage 3 or even 5 targets before reloading. As it is, after the 5th shot, they still have to put at least one more on the 3rd target, so they stand there trying to reload as fast as possible while the 3rd badguy patiently waits for them to do so. Hardly a practical scenario.
The reason I decided against it is that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to administer "standards" type stages that require a certain number of shots fired and hits per target. Yet, both IPSC and IDPA have two types of scoring: unlimited shots and limited shots. Perhaps we could do the same thing here.
In my quest to make this a practical gun match, DRT scoring has a lot to offer. A good shot with a 5-shot might be able to show the hicap shooters how it's done.
IDPA RULES
As I stated, I have some serious problems with some of these rules. I can't run it as a sanctioned club/match and NOT enforce all of the rules. I can't do it part way. This would undermine the IDPA organization and would not be fair to the shooter. If he didn't have to do "X" here, then didn't do it at the State match and got penalized for it, who's to blame?
USPSA RULES
There will be no "tactical sequence" or "tactical priority" or a requirement to be 100% behind cover during reloads. There will be no tactical reloads, reloads-with-retention or required slide lock reloads.
There will be no Open guns with a compensator or "uncarryable" red dot sight. There will be no race rigs, dropped-offset holsters (unless you're female) big-ass magwells or magazines carried forward of the hip bone.
Belt holsters are required. No pocket carry for guns. No cross-draws, no should rigs. Holsters must cover the triggerguard.
Rules regarding holsters and equipment can be compared to those in the 1911 Single Stack division:
Suitable for everyday use. Race gun type holster
prohibited.
Must carry pistol so that the entire front strap (to the
trigger guard) is at or above the top of the belt.
Female shooters must carry the pistol no lower than
the heel of the butt at the top of the belt.
May not be manufactured or cut lower than, and
must cover the slide up to, ½ below the ejection port
(belt slide Yaqui type holster exempt).
Note that there is no stipulation about "daylight" thru the belt channel or how deep the mag pouches must be, or if said mag pouches are open faced. I don't care if I can see daylight thru the belt channel and I don't care if your mag pouches are 1" deep and are open-faced, but they can't be placed forward of the hip bone.
Also, "suitable for everyday use" shall be interpreted to be capable of casual concealment and applies to both holster and mag pouches.
I welcome your comments and discussion.
Sounds good to me. I just need a set of rules and equipement guidelines to follow. We could go on for weeks about what we like and don't like about rules and scoring so as long as I get to squeeze that trigger thing I'm happy
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I'll "snubby-up"
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