HELL YEAH. Bin Laden is DEAD. Yes thats right DEAD

[Mechanicalmehem]

Iraq certainly had more opposition, I'll give you that...but the entire "War on Terror" took quite a bit of heat too.
If you asked some of these people their opinion of our efforts to find Bin Laden on Friday, and again today, you'd get different answers. Just basing this off the ones I know.

Point is, today we've collectively pinned it all a success because Bin Laden is dead, as if it will somehow change things drastically. As if this one dead guy justifies the last 10 (20-30+?) years. The constant media appeals to emotion, and the excuse to bring "post 9/11 world" back into our daily vocabulary garnish it nicely. We now have a "success story" to bring up anytime we need to get people to fall in line.

exactly..well stated!

 

[elwoodtrix]

as like pearl harbor and the japanese???


I think that was better handled..

 

[dennishoddy]

I just went through and read this 22 page cesspool of a thread again. .

Thanks! Now I won't have to wade through it, since I know how its going.

 

[farmerbyron]

Saying Obama doesn't deserve credit because he didn't fire the shot is like Osama is not responsible because he didn't fly the planes

Not exactly. Obama didn't plan the raid. He had intel reports from the CIA and SOCOM that said, "Hey we are pretty damn sure we know where Osama is, can we go get him?" Obama simply gave the authority. While Osama was involved in the planning of 9/11. I see your point though.

He definitely deserves some credit though for not p***y footing around asking permission from Pakistan to go in and get his ass. I'm no fan of his but I am damn glad he made the right call in this instance.

 

[Michael Brown]

I don't think that it was "SEALs" that took him out. This is the mission that Delta was created for but given that they don't "exist" we just call them SEALs when they do something that we need credit for and go on.

Bin Laden is dead. Sure, the govt. lies all the time (see above) but there is no way they would lie about Osama's death. It would be too easy to disprove and become a disaster for the US. I'm certain there are half truths involved in this story, but the main point, Bin Laden is deader than a hammer, is fact.

On a side note: Can you imagine being in the team that got the SOB? Talk about jubilation. Bet they propped him up in the corner and posed for pictures. I know I would have.

You guys looking for lies are missing the actual lies. IMO It wasn't SEALs per se, it was most likely Delta. I would bet that he wasn't buried with any thought to honor that is just a story to try and minimize the inflammation of the muslim world to his death. The Pakistani's were not involved, if they would have known anything they would have tipped him off and we would have missed him again. Kudos to Obama for not telling even Britain or Canada of our intel and just letting our guys go in and take care of business without all the diplomatic BS.

Obama is going to claim credit for this like any president would but on the campaign trail, when he touts that achievement as his own, the simple counter would be that he didn't do anything that any other president would not have done. Also that he didn't do a damn thing, it was the spec ops and intel community that puts their ass on the line every day that deserve the credit, not any politician. That is how you negate the political impact this can have on his re-election chances. Trying to make a conspiracy that he lied about killing Osama to boost poll numbers makes you look like a kook.

The mission commander, whose info has been public, is also Seal Team six's commander so it is logical that it was them.

Delta is also not secret and no one denies they exist.

There would be no reason to deny this was done by Delta but there is no reason to believe it is so. Team Six is the most well-rounded of the Seal teams, almost all of which have been operating in non-maritime locations like Iraq and Afganisistan for the last ten years.

I agree with the rest of your points however.

Michael Brown

 

[VIKING]

OMG..I finally got it all read...

 

[Nraman]

Saying Obama doesn't deserve credit because he didn't fire the shot is like Osama is not responsible because he didn't fly the planes

As the saying goes, the buck stops at Obama's office. The final decision was his, therefore he gets the credit. If he had allowed him to escape by refusing to act the blame would be his.

 

[farmerbyron]

The mission commander, whose info has been public, is also Seal Team six's commander so it is logical that it was them.

Delta is also not secret and no one denies they exist.

There would be no reason to deny this was done by Delta but there is no reason to believe it is so. Team Six is the most well-rounded of the Seal teams, almost all of which have been operating in non-maritime locations like Iraq and Afganisistan for the last ten years.

I agree with the rest of your points however.

Michael Brown

Wasn't Seal team 6 the one that was highlighted in "Lone Survivor" by Marcus Luttrell?

I could very well be wrong as I am just a jackwagon with a computer, but it seems like this is the exact mission Delta was created for and if they had plenty of time to plan it, then why wouldn't they use the unit designed specifically for it?...........ohhh crap, I'm starting another conspiracy theory.

 

[ActionJaxn]

BREAKING NEWS!!

Chuck Norris has just returned from a trip to Pakistan!!

 

[Coltcombat]

I can see it now... Call of Duty:Seals Team Six