pure speculation..
kid should have called 911 right?? "some dude following me in his vehicle... hold on, wait, he got out and is running after me because I tried to get away from him"
pure speculation..
kid should have called 911 right?? "some dude following me in his vehicle... hold on, wait, he got out and is running after me because I tried to get away from him"
Are you saying Martin is a "dog"? Do you have evidence that Zimmerman had him "cornered"? Do you have evidence that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun?
Why couldn't Martin have called 911? He had a phone in his hand, didn't he? Do you have evidence that Zimmerman was "running" after Martin?
Pure speculation is EXACTLY what you're engaging in.
This case is fraught with speculation. You speculated that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun and felt cornered. Many unknowns in this case but it has been reported since day one as a kid gets profiled and gunned down by a larger, grown man. Reality and facts have had very little bearing to this point.
Never said he GAVE UP the right to self-defense due to fleeing. I stated SYG does not apply IF one flees first. IT DOESNT NEED TO BE APPLIED.
AGAIN... SYG states you do not have to flee. When someone flees first, then is forced to defend themselves, they are in a much better legal position than what is covered under SYG because they tried to flee first.
One more time....If someone assaults you, you flee, they follow and attack, you defend yourself, SYG does not apply because it does not need to and it does not fit the criteria of the law. SYG only applies when one in fact....STANDS THEIR GROUND at the onset of the attack.
Fixed it for ya
see above post.
No, not a popular opinion here, but a respected one.
SYG may be "overkill" but when it comes to being criminally/civilly charged with the chances of prison or financial ruin, I am glad there is the extra specificity that protects me. I dont trust my life to a wishful optimistic interpretation.
Or to the goodwill or common sense of the courts.
I guess its fun to speculate. I speculate there will be a trial and the judge will beat the gavel to close the case. Until then play the guessing game, blame the media, argue pointless angles and build up your post count.
We're here to talk, shoot the breeze and discuss current events, offer our opinions, etc.
At least I am.
What's a post count?
Exactly...some folks are missing that point. We aren't prosecuting the case...just shooting the breeze in a tech version of the barber/coffee shop.
Everything to someone who doesn't have one ... LOL
I've never figured out why when in a "conversation" here someone will get their panties wadded up and throw out the post count thing. This guys here (the vast majority of them long gone -- or just lurkers -- now
) would chitty-chat all night long. We had some downright EPIC threads here ... and they were all hysterical. I spent many nights laughing so hard I was crying ... 
Oh ... and I have no idea how this one's gonna go ... All I know for sure is that convicted or not Zimmerman's life has been FUBAR'd beyond belief -- first, when he shot the kid (whether it was self-defense or not) and second, when Travon's Mommy and Daddy decided their less-than-perfect angel's name needed to be trademarked ...
